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      • JohnEdwa
        1117·
        2 months ago

        Thought sabotaging enemy equipment to explode isn’t.
        Had this been a bunch of Russian or Wagner Group radio equipment exploding because they had been rigged by Ukraine, it wouldn’t be a war crime - combatants don’t stop being valid targets even if they are on leave and are at fault of endangering the civil population, possibly themselves causing a war crime by effectively using civilians as human shields in the process.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          301·
          2 months ago

          Pagers are civilian objects, they’re categorically different from radio equipment because they can be used by civilians.

          Furthermore, these exploded in civilian structures among the civilian population. Pagers blew up inside people’s cars while driving down the highway. They blew up on grocery stores. They blew up children.

          It’s terrorism.

        • PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world
          274·
          2 months ago

          A pager isn’t “enemy equipment” in the same way a missile or a gun is. There were literally cell phone stores exploding in Lebanon. A 9-year-old girl died. This is 100% a fucking war crime. If someone kills a member of your family do you get to booby-trap the stove in their house so the kids get their faces melted off?

        • FaceDeer@fedia.io
          31·
          2 months ago

          It’s complicated, but this might be considered a war crime. A key quote from the article:

          A booby trap is defined as “any device designed or adapted to kill or injure, and which functions unexpectedly when a person disturbs or approaches an apparently harmless object,” according to Article 7 of a 1996 adaptation of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons, which Israel has adopted. The protocol prohibits booby traps “or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.”

          The prohibition is presumably intended to make it less likely that a civilian or other uninvolved person will get injured or killed by one of these seemingly harmless objects. If you’re booby-trapping military equipment or military facilities then that’s not a problem, civilians wouldn’t be using those.

          • JohnEdwa
            1·
            2 months ago

            When you are a paramilitary organization, the line between what is military equipment and what isn’t gets quite blurry. Especially when they weren’t really “boobytrapped”, they were turned into remote explosives and did nothing until explicitly triggered.

            • FaceDeer@fedia.io
              2·
              2 months ago

              If this isn’t a military battle then that makes Israel’s actions look even worse.

              They were triggered indiscriminately. Israel had no way of knowing who was holding each pager or where it was located when it went off.

  • Chozo@fedia.io
    9·
    2 months ago

    This article spent more time explaining the logistics on building pager-bombs than it did actually explaining why building pager-bombs is a bad idea.

    • residentmarchant@lemmy.worldEnglish
      142·
      2 months ago

      Not sure if sarcasm, but the article is actually super insightful into a few different methods bad actors could use to accomplish the same feat (short of giving them a formula, from what I can read, but I’m not a battery maker)

  • delirious_owl@discuss.online
    6·
    2 months ago

    The first time I heard about BlueHat was watching Bunnie give a talk on hardware supply chain security in Israel in 2019.

    Two questions:

    1. How many years do you think you’d need to execute an attack like this? A bit less than 5 years?

    2. How much do you want to bet that whoever designed this terrorist attack was inspired by Bunnie’s talk in Israel?