I was up late last night and we know how that goes - rabbit holes. This time I was trying to find some ways to make my phone feel a little snappier and possibly eliminate the issue I was having where my recent apps button stops working until I restart the phone. On Android 13 I found that if I changed to gesture based navigation it solves the problem - recent apps can be switched to for just a small change. But the fluidity of gesture based navigation got me thinking about the animation speeds, so off I went into developer mode to play with some settings. This is where the rabbit hole begins.

(Small edit for phone!) I’ve only recently gotten the Sony Xperia 1IV direct from Sony, put in my TMobile SIM and have been running it the last 8 months or so. I haven’t looked too much into the A13, but I made sure to do all my usual protections - disable Facebook and whatever other bloatware comes preinstalled. I saw a category to see a list of running services and there’s some pretty innocuous ones - wireless charging service, accubattery, google, KDE connect, Vanced MicroG and Meta Services. It just looked like an RSS feed with a notification icon, really and I didn’t think much of it.

Well with (edit for clarity) Vanced being dead me not liking ReVanced as much (end edit) and should have switched to LibreTube much sooner, I was trying to find where and how to uninstall MicroG. I came across my active processes again and I remembered about Meta, did a little digging (and I mean little) and saw that many Android phones come with a Meta App Manager and tracking service that runs automatically in the background, whether or not you have their apps installed/disabled. We all knew about bloatware coming preinstalled, but this was the first I’d come across full on background services using data and RAM (minute as they may be).

So I thought I’d share. It’s simple, but here we are. To find them (in Android 13)

Android Settings > Apps > See All Apps > top corner Show System

Scroll down to the M’s and be sure to disable background data, clear cache and storage, and disable these 3 Meta services.

And if you’re curious to see your Running Services, enable developer mode, navigate to it and it’s the 8th option, right under “OEM unlocking”. Handy for finding sneaky apps.

While I don’t use Facebook on my phone (app wrapper), I do use Instagram and I’ve noticed zero issues with the app. Almost like the tracking is completely unnecessary for the user experience and its removal breaks nothing! But obligatory YMMV and do this at your own risk etc. The risk is likely that Facebook wont serve you ads as well, the horror.

Anyway, I thought I was up to date on everything that needs to be done to debloat a phone, but I found some more that I’ve yet to see any mentions or guides for until after I started researching what and why Meta Services was running on my phone. I thought I’d share since I’m tech savvy and try to stay up to date, so if I feel this way then there may be others who would like to know about this as well.

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    I will keep this in mind when I get a new phone. My phone is a couple years old. I uninstalled Facebook as soon as I got it, but it kept getting reinstalled. Eventually I found a generic app called “FInstaller”. I had to use ADB to uninstall it. After that Facebook never got reinstalled. I’m assuming this was their first attempt at staying on a phone, and now they’ve upped their game. Thanks for letting us all know about this.

    Btw-Vanced still works. I’m going to keep using it until it stops. I will resort to Libretube after that.

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      I was using Revanced for a while but I didn’t like the layout as much for some reason, and I was already moving away toward Piped on my desktop and logging into libretube with my existing account was seamless.

      Glad to share! I just hope it helps us and screws Facebook, if even just a little.

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    MicroG on a stock ROM?

    Anyway, personally I only buy phones that have great community support for LineageOS (preferably official, but a good unofficial build also do in a pinch). That way I know for a fact it doesn’t come with anything I don’t want.

    I’m not degoogled or anything, but the experience is still far supperior. Stock ROMs are just pretty much full of bloatware, and a lot of manufacturers care more about their kickbacks than providing a good, solid experience. They all have stupid useless gimmicks you can’t disable.

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      It was for Vanced, but then it died and I had forgotten to get rid of it lol. I didn’t like the interface as much and I have already been moving to Piped, so I figured I’d move on.

      I’m not fully degoogling either, I’m mostly just trying to limit the tracking to the things I accept being tracked by.

      FWIW, my phone from Sony had pretty minimal bloatware aside from Facebook. Far less egregious than the uninstallable stores and apps from others - not sure about the 1IV’s lineageOS support though.

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    My Pixel does not have any meta services running. It did not come with any Meta apps preinatalled as I recall.

    I run Facebook via Friendly (if someone has a better/more recently updated Facebook sandbox I’d love to know).

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      Seems like most Pixel users don’t have this over on Kbin which is good to hear!

      I personally use Metal Pro for Facebook/Twitter, but it’s just a wrapper and is quite old. No idea on the app itself either, a little ironic on my part

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        I used metal previously and the bugs go to be too much. Friendly and Frost are more recently updated but both have their own bugs as well.