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      That might be hard to grasp but sometimes the interests or rulers and elites do align to some degree with the average person in their country. Most rich and powerful people have a lot of investments that are worth significantly less when unpredictable things such as invasions happen that disrupt trade.

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        Humanity is literally on the verge of extinction due to global warming and you still believe rulers gives a single shit to anything that isn’t money or power? War is a business.

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            Go explain that to the biggest 10 companies in the world. I doubt you have enough money to sit at their table. Stop giving a fuck about everything around you and focus on money and wealth alone and perhaps you will get a chance to talk with their executives.

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              I was just pointing out a flaw in your reasoning. There are no simple answers to complex questions.

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                I think it’s simple to see how greedy people try to take as much as they can without thinking of the consequences. Money and power are a drug

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                  Again if it’s just power and money then they would be very much interested in continuation of human spices.

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                    sorry to interrupt but do you believe in climate change and if you do do you understand that since the Paris Agreement the oil companies have been pull more oil out of the ground? if each of these are yes’s then what is it your saying? chop of ones noise to spite ones face.

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      I mean the rulers and elites live in the same countries as many of us do and they sure as shit don’t want war where they live. It might not be here to defend us, but it’s here to defend the countries we live in.

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        War is a business and a tool to get more power. Rulers and elites cares about money and wealth they don’t give a fuck about the planet or peasants. Just look around yourself

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          That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting, but you can profit off of. Which is why they’re still incentivized to keep peace in their own countries, but not so much half a planet away.

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            That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting

            If you are a ruler you probably don’t give a fuck about anything that isn’t money and power.

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                Idk ask them. Billionares or authoritarian rulers are basically addicts who don’t make rational choices. Their “bunker” is probably a palace with servants

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      I can’t hear you with that imperialist cock brushing against your tonsils.