Hi. So the weirdest, most annoying argument I’ve had just happened. Some alt-righter’s logic was “Well, if I use this obscene word a lot, then i’m using it liberally, and if enough people hear it, then thAt’s PRoGREssive” Dafuq crack are you smoking bro? Using hate speech/profanities/obscenities is neither liberal or progressive. Am I wrong? Explain this warped logic to me? Chuds are quite illogical. Also, I’m a bit buzzed and I can make more sense than a right-wing chud.

  • Liwott@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    First, to be sure I understand, did you just copy the exact citation while adding only some capitalisation? Having the exact wording may help understanding what their logical point was supposed to be.

    Let me add that playing with the capitalisation to make the person’s speech sound stupid make it seem like you are just looking for support from people who agree with you rather than actually understanding what they were trying to say.

    Using hate speech/profanities/obscenities is neither liberal or progressive.

    That depends on what one means by liberal and progressive. Maybe you are following the very american trend to call leftism in general “liberalism”, and your opponent isn’t.

    Free speech is one of the most important individual freedoms. Putting individual freedoms above other considerations is the core of liberalism.

    The right to slur can also be seen as progressive in the sense that it opposes a conservative puritanism.

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      3 years ago

      I copied what I could from his message. “then I’m using the term liberally, that makes it liberal. And if more people are exposed the to the term, then it is making progress”

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        3 years ago

        “making progress” of course depends on what is the goal one wants to achieve. When unsure, you should definitely check with the other person what they mean by liberal or progress. That’s pretty much all I can say from this contextless citation.

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      3 years ago

      I’d copy the message word for word, but there are profanities, and racial slurs in the message. I will try to copy/paste, though.