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      The difference between what I took away when I first read that book and the 2nd or 3rd time I watched the movie was night and day.

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        I feel bad the kid he had a privileged shit life. But going out into the middle of the Alaskan wilderness to survive with no formal training was punching way above his weight…

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        The thing that dawned on me when I watched it as an older adult was his sheer selfishness. Smug, cliched little prick. His father’s violence aside, what about the rest of his family?

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        Except he dies alone at the end, so it was definitely a cautionary tale.

        This is sort of like saying Don Quixote was about a famous knight saving the world and not a crazy rich guy fighting windmills

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          Except he dies alone at the end, so it was definitely a cautionary tale.

          If the last recent years has taught us anything, it’s that how you present a thing matters a lot more than what the thing is that’s actually being presented. Unfortunately.

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            Pretty much, which is why I consider the Fight Club movie a complete flop, maybe not financially, but it fails at its own message so hard that only the dudebros it mocks like it.

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              that only the dudebros it mocks like it.

              or, hear me out, movies don’t need to be lectures and is ok to just do something for the entertainment/artistry/visuals/storytelling of it.

              I can tell you that I’m the opposite of what the movie depicts, I’m fragile, never been in a fight, I sincerely hope that will never be in one, I cried like a baby in ET or the time traveles wife, the Schindler’s list broke my heart, I dislike the dudebro dynamics, and I adore that movie. I also like horror movies as a genre and I don’t go around killing people.

              It’s fine that you use movies as lectures of life and ethics, or that you don’t enjoy them if they don’t have a message that you agree with, but some people like them for other reasons, so please try not to profile people for what they like to watch.

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                It’s not that I dislike Fight Club for “not having a message”, but for the fact that it’s meant to have a message according to the director and the writer of the book, but the movie doesn’t depict what that message is very well.

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                  sorry I wasn’t clear, my criticism wasn’t towards you not liking the movie, anyone have their own taste and there is nothing wrong with it, we all just want to enjoy things :-)

                  My problem was about you profiling people that do like the movie as “dudebros”, that wasn’t very nice IMHO

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                    That was rude of me, let me rephrase.

                    There are many things in Fight Club that are enjoyable, snappy dialogue, clever moments (I wonder if beating the shit out of yourself in a CEO’s office just as security arrives to create an awkward situation has any chance of working irl)

                    However, the film has attracted a rather toxic cult following that seem to think Tyler Durden’s the good guy… and sadly the film’s most vocal fans are from this group.

                    I personally have seen the flick twice and did not much care for it myself, just for the record (So you don’t get the impression I judge the film’s quality solely on this subgroup)