• WraithGear@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    Don’t bring the voters into this. I don’t know your stance and i don’t care. But if he was on the ticket i would have no choice but to vote for Biden, as much as i hate him. I can only hope that Kamala stands by her stance on limiting Israel’s actions.

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Kamala already promised to keep providing weapons for the Genocide. Harris provides no hope, only cope.

      The voters are ultimately the ones responsible if they vote for it. Despite people really wanting to deny that fact.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          3 months ago

          Jill Stein is a good choice. If the greens get enough votes they are eligible for funding.

          • WraithGear@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            It’s funny you say that. I am usually a proponent of third party candidates, as my post history shows no doubt. I even voted for her in 2016.

            That was the election we got trump elected if you recall.

            I also later found out about her ties to Russia Today and to attending the Russian gala the year before.

            Her excuse on the matter was weak. I will defend anyone’s wish to vote third party as i don’t believe in the Democratic Party at all. However i would recommend against it until a change in voting system.

            That doesn’t mean i accept any bullshit from the DNC just because they are not trump, such as giving Israel cover to commit genocide.

            From what i saw Kamala has said that she does believe Israel has a right to defend themselves. But the how is important. This tells me that she would not be up for permitting genocide, but who knows until tested.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              3 months ago

              Good on you for not voting for Hillary. You did the right thing. It’s because of that Democrats have already ditched Biden. They have now learned they need to pander to progressives to win.

              The problem is that they believe they can keep it to pandering without actually doing anything.

              As for Kamala, she’s as much of a corporate ghoul as Biden

              2019 - More AIPAC Than J Street’: Kamala Harris Runs to the Right on Foreign Policy

              In her very first foreign policy vote in January 2017, for instance, Harris sided with President Trump in criticizing the outgoing President Obama’s refusal to veto an otherwise-unanimous, very modest, and largely symbolic UN Security Council resolution on Israeli settlements. Among other things, that resolution reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.

              • WraithGear@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                3 months ago

                Yea, not good, but still not genocide, at least directly… but her stance on other issues are acceptable. Her claims about justice reform are a little suspect, but she has backed Bernie Sanders in a number of things, whom i ideologically most align with, if not float a little further outside left.

                I am still critical of the DNC but… Kamala Harris must beat trump. Jill Stein just isn’t in position to achieve that goal.

                • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  It’s direct Genocide. Democrats are already bombing Yemen. Providing diplomatic cover, all the weapons to commit Genocide and threatening anyone who wants to stop it with destruction. It is nothing less than direct involvement.

                  On a scale of responsibility I’d even put the Democrats above Netanyahu. There is nobody more responsible for the Genocide than Democrats. This would happen without Netanyahu, but it could not happen without the Democrats…

                  Trump will be a repeat of 2016. Not great but the world won’t end like all the liberals are pretending.

                  In the end if you’re not wiling to use your vote for leverage the Democrats will know once and for all they can sell it to the highest bidder for anything. Genocide included.

          • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            If you believe that 9/11 was committed by the US government, and other moronic conspiracy theories, sure.