German drugstore chain Rossmann said that Elon Musk's support for Donald Trump, the Republican candidate who calls climate change a hoax, goes against Tesla's mission—and it wants out.
I’d love an EV that is fast and affordable like a tesla. I wanted a tesla but couldn’t afford it. Now I can afford it but there is no way in hell I’m buying one. Fuck him, he should fuck off to Mars or the sun, either is a big W for the world.
I only like the part where you can just order from the website instead of going to a dealership where after one hour of talking and giving you a plethora of personal data that is guaranteed to inundate you with spam they tell you that due to high demand the car sells for 3k over MSRP
For the rest, while I really like the clean design, for me a car must have
A stalk for the indicator lights
Gear selector on physical buttons
Climate on physical buttons
If it comes with automatic windshield, a $1 wet sensor that works in any visibility instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
If it comes with parking sensors, an array of $2 ultrasonic sensors that always work instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
Android auto/carplay. I want to be able to choose which app is used with navigation or use different ways to send messages besides sms. If the car operating system doesn’t allow me to send messages using signal or to use offline openstreetmaps, then for me it’s limited
He’s not. He’s a bloviating idiot with no idea about what he’s talking about. He’s been able to look smart by throwing money at problems, but going to Mars is going to be a money pit for him.
I have no idea why NASA still contracts with him. We can’t talk about Jack Parsons, because he was besties with Crowley and did sex rituals to summon the AntiChrist (which just makes him cooler IMHO) - but Muskrat can do whatever he wants.
The mission to mars will be well after he builds the hyper loop across California, US, and Tesla implements full self driving. In other words, it’s something he told investors to secure their investment for something shorter term, while making it sound like he’s thinking far into the future.
And if he ever does sacrifice some suckers to keep up appearances, I don’t think he’d put up his hand to be one of them!
I kinda expect a lot of people will come to regret going, seeing as it’s a dead nearly-airless rock too far from Earth for synchronous communication, so he can go first, that’s fine.
I actively don’t want a fast EV. Maybe a quick one but I don’t want a fast one.
I like having more horsepower than minimum viable but who needs it to go from 0 to 90 in 2.1 femptoseconds? If it can keep up with or slightly outgun my Buick Century we’ll be okay.
Why would I want my EV to carry around the weight of the motors necessary to perform like a supercar?
Well said. Gradual acceleration is far more energy efficient, safest, and less damaging to the vehicle so driving like a grandpa is definitely the smartest way to drive.
I want to go 0 to 60 2.1 femptoseconds. I drive a car now that does it in 3.9, I can’t go back to slow. Like I said, I’m a car guy. There’s nothing else like feeling the G’s when you smash the accelerator.
True, but here I can get a used dual motor long range 3 for 20k. Can get a little older fast S for 17k. The Mach E GT is pretty on par with that but they’re 10-15k more and half a second slower in the quarter mile. I know it shouldn’t matter, but it does to me, it’s my thing.
Why not get a frame from a scrap yard and have one built, mind ya this only works if ya have the liquad cash but imagine a 1995 Toyota 4runner but its all electric.
Maybe I didnt go far enough (that site makes my phone want to die) but it seems that the article is about modern electric cars being scrapped. Which is somewhat reasonable, the battery is more or less part of the frame on a lot of them. Thusly when they get into a wreck if the frame is compromised then the batt is as well, which given how lithium doesnt play nice with oxygen is a safety matter. The same would not apply to say a 1960s VW bug, which would probably have its batts in the frunk.
I’ve looked into it. It’s still pretty pricey. I’m sure at some point in the near future swap parts will become more available and less expensive. When that happens, I’ll make a neat sleeper.
I’d love an EV that is fast and affordable like a tesla. I wanted a tesla but couldn’t afford it. Now I can afford it but there is no way in hell I’m buying one. Fuck him, he should fuck off to Mars or the sun, either is a big W for the world.
I only like the part where you can just order from the website instead of going to a dealership where after one hour of talking and giving you a plethora of personal data that is guaranteed to inundate you with spam they tell you that due to high demand the car sells for 3k over MSRP
For the rest, while I really like the clean design, for me a car must have
He doesn’t deserve to go to Mars before NASA
He’s not. He’s a bloviating idiot with no idea about what he’s talking about. He’s been able to look smart by throwing money at problems, but going to Mars is going to be a money pit for him.
I have no idea why NASA still contracts with him. We can’t talk about Jack Parsons, because he was besties with Crowley and did sex rituals to summon the AntiChrist (which just makes him cooler IMHO) - but Muskrat can do whatever he wants.
I’m banking on him not making it there, and if he does, it was a one way trip.
The mission to mars will be well after he builds the hyper loop across California, US, and Tesla implements full self driving. In other words, it’s something he told investors to secure their investment for something shorter term, while making it sound like he’s thinking far into the future.
And if he ever does sacrifice some suckers to keep up appearances, I don’t think he’d put up his hand to be one of them!
I kinda expect a lot of people will come to regret going, seeing as it’s a dead nearly-airless rock too far from Earth for synchronous communication, so he can go first, that’s fine.
I actively don’t want a fast EV. Maybe a quick one but I don’t want a fast one.
I like having more horsepower than minimum viable but who needs it to go from 0 to 90 in 2.1 femptoseconds? If it can keep up with or slightly outgun my Buick Century we’ll be okay.
Why would I want my EV to carry around the weight of the motors necessary to perform like a supercar?
Well said. Gradual acceleration is far more energy efficient, safest, and less damaging to the vehicle so driving like a grandpa is definitely the smartest way to drive.
I want to go 0 to 60 2.1 femptoseconds. I drive a car now that does it in 3.9, I can’t go back to slow. Like I said, I’m a car guy. There’s nothing else like feeling the G’s when you smash the accelerator.
I just lost all interest in performance cars after aerobatics training. Barrel roll a Pitts S2B and let me know if you give a shit about cars anymore.
I don’t give a shit about flying, I’ll stick to four wheels on the ground. That’s the beauty of being an individual, not everything is for everyone.
That’s what I felt about motorcycles after flying planes. Motorcycles are freeing… But planes can move in another direction.
Why not buy from one of the other car brands?
I’m a car guy. It has to be fast. Nobody else has that fast at that price.
TIL there is actually one legit selling point.
If you don’t mind used, plenty of cheap fast EVs. I got mine for more than half off that was 2 years old and has 13k miles
Mach-E GT’s are a steal right now
Taycans aren’t that much more expensive than a Model S, each starts ballpark 100k Euro.
True, but here I can get a used dual motor long range 3 for 20k. Can get a little older fast S for 17k. The Mach E GT is pretty on par with that but they’re 10-15k more and half a second slower in the quarter mile. I know it shouldn’t matter, but it does to me, it’s my thing.
Does the Tesla have the ignition on the left side of the steering wheel? Those are the things that really matter.
(Ok it’s a power button not an ignition but it’s still on the left).
Why not get a frame from a scrap yard and have one built, mind ya this only works if ya have the liquad cash but imagine a 1995 Toyota 4runner but its all electric.
Illegal in Norway. So many people would be building their own, but when the laws make them illegal, they’re not built. It’s bullshit.
Why is it illegal? I there are hundred year old car frames out there doing great, so why outlaw frame and interior reuse.
No idea. Just remember reading about it years ago. https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/dokumentar/xl/hvorfor-lonner-det-seg-a-kaste-bilen_-1.15232892?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp link to translated article.
Maybe I didnt go far enough (that site makes my phone want to die) but it seems that the article is about modern electric cars being scrapped. Which is somewhat reasonable, the battery is more or less part of the frame on a lot of them. Thusly when they get into a wreck if the frame is compromised then the batt is as well, which given how lithium doesnt play nice with oxygen is a safety matter. The same would not apply to say a 1960s VW bug, which would probably have its batts in the frunk.
I’ve looked into it. It’s still pretty pricey. I’m sure at some point in the near future swap parts will become more available and less expensive. When that happens, I’ll make a neat sleeper.
Used market is full of teslas. Just don’t buy new. Few weeks ago you could get long range Tesla 2021 model (the one with heated battery) for £16k.
That isn’t bad advice. If you remove the Tesla emblems from it then that also makes it clear that you don’t identify with Musk’s neo-nazi views.
Don’t worry, my comment will be removed shortly anyway. Because it doesn’t align with the accepted view.
Because everyone is out there buying new cars… News and world news are becoming awful places to be.