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    5 months ago

    Perhaps. Though to argue against that point, id say there are plenty of people who don’t know it is/why it is a Nazi platform. Though once improbable to a terminally online person like me, I’ve since seen it too often to discount. So i don’t think we should downvote the comment as irrelevant to the discussion based on our own knowledge.

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      But the discussion had nothing to do with the political leanings of the platform’s management, it’s just a screenshot of a post some random user. By definition it is irrelevant.

      A cool fact about octopi especially regarding their propensity to wear shells as hats would have been relevant, but this is basically just like if someone posted a screenshot of a lemmy post about octopi somewhere else and I commented “lemmy devs are tankie shitstains.” Like, sure, Nutsomic and Dessalinator are pieces of shit with abhorrent views who are transphobic and murderous and support genocide, but what does that have to do with the user “steve’s” post about octopi? Diddly squat, the OP isn’t Nutsomic (or for the OG meme, the OP isn’t Elon), and we have no way of knowing the political leanings of the OP (they could be nazis, but if we say “everyone on twitter is 100% nazis,” by that logic we must then say “everyone on lemmy is a genocidal murderous transphobic tankie.” Idk about you but I think both of those statements are clearly not correct, there clearly are lemmy users and twitter users that would not meet the definitions they’re supposed to assuming we’re applying the sins of the creator/owner to their userbase.)

      It isn’t necessary to inform people on a post like this imo, save that for a post when it would even be almost relevant, like a post about or by Elon or twitter staff, or even just a link to twitter, rather than just an unrelated screenshot.

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        Like, sure, Nutsomic and Dessalinator are pieces of shit with abhorrent views who are transphobic and murderous and support genocide

        I was aware and dissapointed by the transphobic Nutomic messages. I haven’t heard anything bad about Dessalines, though, besides the fact that they continue to work with Nutomic after said messages were exposed. Dessalines did at least make sure Trans mods were installed in c/transgender, so they seem to not share the same opinion.

        What did Dessalines do? Or is Dessalinator someone different from Dessalines?

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          Well that is good to hear. He’s still a tankie who wants to kill people, but I guess maybe not one of the transphobic ones, that is good at least.

          Did he end up restoring the whistleblower’s acct or did he let the egregious ban stand?

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        I don’t think you should be so offended or angry that someone dislikes Musk/Twitter and leaves a two word comment.

        It’s Musk’s controversial politics that makes people react to him with negative comments at anything even vaguely associated with him. I wouldn’t adopt his problems as your own, and I think it would be healthier to just go “yeah, he’s criticized everywhere because of the dumb shit he says on his main account, that makes sense” (and on that other account where he pretended to be a little kid, which was weird).

        But it makes sense people object to the objectionable.

        I’m just saying don’t let him take up too much of your life if it’s his objectionable nature that causes people to react even when & where you don’t personally see it as being relevant enough to warrant it.

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          The closest “his problems” have to do with me is I’m sick of hearing every other human on earth be obsessed with him, love him or hate him they can’t not talk about him. I’ve never had a twitter, I’ve never had a Tesla, I’ve never ridden a Spacex rocket, I’m sick of hearing about it.

          I do like cool octopi though, but I can’t even escape hearing about him even on a post about cool octopi. I’ve probably been boycotting twitter longer than you crusaders by virtue of literally never signing up for one, and yet I’m granted no respite from the crusade that can’t just let people enjoy things because “it was posted in the wrong neighborhood to the wrong website god knows how long ago, gotta evangelize my disdain for some rich african schmuck!”

          Sure criticize him for his posts because of his main acct, ok, and I’m then to assume this is Elon posting directly through one of his known alts, that’s how he’s at all relevant to this cool ass octopus? If so, sure, my mistake. If not, I’m still of the opinion both that he’s not relevant, and that said irrelevance might be the cause of some of them there downvotes, to bring it back to my original hypothesis.

          Anger nothing, annoyance at best, like an overplayed song you never even liked that you’re sick of hearing again. He takes up none of my life, if all of a sudden everyone just stopped constantly playing the song I’d forget it existed in a week. It takes more of my life having to see yet another post praising or hating or even just fucking acknowledging him, and even that only takes a little bit of joy as I’m reminded I can’t do fucking anything without someone referencing him every 45min.

          To be clear this is the same exact feeling I have everytime I hear Tommy Twotone’s 867-5309 playing in some store, it’s enough with that shit already!

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            You’re doing the same thing by perpetuating a conversation about him, and demanding comments that show a dislike of him be downvoted.

            Be mature and move on with your life man, rather than making a conversation about him the centre of your existence. It’s embarassing.

            You want negative mention of him downvoted because you’re upset to see his name. Sounds like he lives pretty rent free in your head. Maybe write another 10 pages about how you don’t want to keep writing about Elon Musk. Or just learn when to shut up and walk away rather than angrievate yourself. Low impulse control much?

            Try not to think of the Musk octopus creeping into your dreams you damaged crustacean.

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              It was thrust upon me by the comment I replied to before I said anything, I did not bring him up, so, “nuh uh.”

              Furthermore I demanded nothing, I believe you’ll find I merely proposed a hypothesis as to why the downvotes, which had previously been asked about, were present.

              You be mature and move on, why are you arguing with my hypothesis, take your own advice then, dingus.

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                “I’m so sick of Elon Musk, I think I’ll spend my life commenting on threads about him”.

                I don’t care about that being the topic, you claim to be trying to avoid it, but back you came anyways!

                “It was thrust upon me”

                Fucking hell dude, grow up or at least listen: no one forced you to participate!

                “It was thrust upon me”

                How are you not embarrassed claim a voluntary interaction has been “thrust upon you”? Learn to walk away and know when you don’t want to participate.

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                  I’m replying to you replying to me, had you people not replied, it would have been one and done. Funny how that works, isn’t it? Now why don’t you go bother someone else, if my replies to your replies offend you so.