YSK Lemmy.World is fundraising for a Zionist media lobby - lemm.ee
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Recently Lemmy.World admins have heavily started pushing an MBFC bot in their bigger subs despite it being deeply unpopular with the users. However rating propaganda was not enough for the mods as they are now actively fundraising for MBFC as well. [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F23492ec1-e757-49b1-a4bc-22dbd39f99fe.png] Evidence MBFC is ran by a Zionist: The bias towards any pro-israel lobby website on MBFC is astoundingly obvious. Take for example UNWatch [https://unwatch.org]. UNwatch is still pushing the UNRWA is Hamas propaganda despite it being fully debunked by every country. [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2Fb8d45763-43b6-4188-aa6d-6f7fc2447ff1.png] Surely a website like this spreading blatant propagands would have a poor MBFC. rating. Let’s check it out! [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/un-watch/] [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F7f17f7aa-9f30-40c7-aff5-b34f02edab45.png] MBFC knows that UNWatch is an israeli lobby but just doesn’t think that’s very important for their credibility rating [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F86533c0c-369f-4688-849b-5f1e2cca4833.png] For sites criticizing israel it works the other way around. They do not have to fail any fact checks, just being designated as a ‘hate group’ by an israeli lobby is enough for MBFC to become a questionable source. [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F9cc748f5-4631-4a73-9e98-6741a4f86a4b.png] This is known to the lemmy.world admins and mods Over the course of the last 9 months I have pointed out multiple times in public and private messages that MBFC is an incredibly bad source of ratings. Multiple other users have also made summaries for the .World mods and admins over the last week (and before that). The admins have willingly ignored this criticism and now added a donation link to the MBFC bot knowing full well what MBFC stands for. Lemmy.World is directly endorsing the Zionist media lobby.
  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    304·
    4 months ago

    man while I have some sympathies that MBFC is not the best. And their left right ratings are at best problematic.

    I’ve blocked OOP here on my account and I don’t take blocking lightly. So I imagine they’ve said some pretty fucked up shit or are a troll.

    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
      95·
      4 months ago

      I’m surprised he isn’t banned yet. Is it just me or do I see a lot of Tankie shit on lemm.ee? Is it another lemmy.ml / lemmygrad / hexbear cesspool? I think lemmy.zip was another smaller one that had a lot of Tankie traffic. Or is that just a consequence of them somehow (?) not defederating from the Tankie instances?

      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        92·
        4 months ago

        I’ve noticed some dodgy tankie accounts on both lemm.ee and lemmy.world

        I think it’s because the instances are lightly moderated and it is easy to make an account. So it attracts people who want to troll/bad intentions.

        Beehaw defederated from world because of this

        • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
          6·
          4 months ago

          On world I’ve seen them in the news communities, but I pretty much blocked them all by now because of the unwillingness to moderate by all of them, specifically regarding disinformation. Though, the instance is too big for me to ban every community, like I do with lemmy.ml. At that point there would be not much activity left and it is already incredibly lowly populated.

          I can appreciate Beehaw blocking the more extreme left instances though, even though they are pretty left leaning too.

          • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            7·
            4 months ago

            Yeah I’ve blocked .ml too.

            I don’t think world is that bad, I used it for a long time until I switched here to Blahaj, but yeah a lot of the dodgy accounts tend to come from world and lemm.ee. Once you’ve got the tankie trifecta (hexbear, grad and ml) blocked.

            • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
              1·
              4 months ago

              Unfortunately on mbin I can only block the specific communities or users, not the entire instance.

          • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
            6·
            4 months ago

            I don’t think Beehaw blocked .world out of any political motivation at all. They simply have a very strict vision of the atmosphere and style of interactions they want their users to have, and the combination of unrestricted sign-ups, lax moderation and lacking moderation tools in general made this vision impossible - hence defederation.

            • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
              1·
              4 months ago

              By that logic you’d have to defederate from basically anything because the moderation tools and sign-ups are about the same everywhere.

              • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
                4·
                4 months ago

                And that is indeed what Beehaw is doing, as far as I’m aware. Though curiously lemm.ee isn’t on their block list (yet)[1]

                Though I think the latest word is that Beehaw is leaving Lemmy altogether in the future.

                1. 1 ↩︎

                • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
                  3·
                  4 months ago

                  No, they block kinda specific based on certain factors, as outlined by the other person.

                  And yes, the lack of moderation controls is one of the big reasons why they want to leave.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        61·
        4 months ago

        Lemmy.world and Lemm.ee both have what I consider to be an unacceptable number of authoritarian, both capitalist (fascist) and communist (tanky), on their servers and leave them up in the name of being enlightened centrists willing to hear anyone out. Sh.itjust.works used to be more Nazish, but I think they had a vote in their agora community at some point that’s allowed their admins and mods to be more proactive than back when I had an account there.

        • Blaze (he/him)OP
          3·
          4 months ago

          Lemmy.world and Lemm.ee both have what I consider to be an unacceptable number of authoritarian, both capitalist (fascist) and communist (tanky), on their servers

          Have you reported them? I host a few communities on lemm.ee, sorry to hear this

          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
            3·
            4 months ago

            I’ve been filing reports when someone’s clearly over the line, but I’ve noticed a pattern with certain agitators who never fully cross the line in any single comment but toe the line in all of them, and in the aggregate pretty clearly are… gross

      • Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works
        63·
        4 months ago

        Should have been way back. They’re in Europe. Created the account after October 7th. Apologize for Hamas on a regular basis. Tell people in the US to vote 3rd party or not vote at all. But no matter what don’t vote for Biden/Harris.

        Obvious troll account is obvious. It’s the same thing Russia did in 2016. Promoted Jill Stein as an alternative back then too. Is exactly what that account has been doing for months.

        • CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca
          33·
          4 months ago

          i love the “i didnt post anything offensive, i just said that “Israel are nazis”” claim.

          Like, I’m no Israel sympathizer, and think they are genociding the Palastinian people, but that claim is so deep rooted in antisemitism its idiotic

  • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
    255·
    4 months ago

    (Clicks to original post, looks at who OP is)

    Ohhh, it’s that guy (who has been banned on my instance for the better part of a year as a frequent poster of misinformation)

    That whole post is a wall of crazy

    • Blaze (he/him)OP
      82·
      4 months ago

      I guess at least now there is a thread I can link people to when they ask “Why do people say that LW are Zionists?”

      Everyone will then make their own opinions

  • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
    121·
    4 months ago

    Honestly it looks like a heated debate about the community bans of the OP of that post 😅

    Honestly I think it is hilarious how people keep whining about lemmy.world being too woke 😁

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          172·
          4 months ago

          Also the origins of the term “woke” in this context basically means “informed” and like… I dunno. That’s what I see too in the woke/anti-woke dichotomy in modern times as well. Its about information vs misinformation. The anti-woke folks consistently push an anti-woke agenda centered around making sure the populace isn’t informed

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
              193·
              4 months ago

              Jesus Christ what the fuck are you talking about. Lemme break this down real quick, I guess

              1. Yes it is. That’s where it comes from in African-American Vernacular. Denying that is… Weird
              2. I don’t mind differing opinions. I do mind misinformation.
              3. I didn’t call anyone dumb. I think politicians like Ron DeSantis don’t want us to teach history because they know we’re not dumb, and the only way to keep us under their thumbs is to keep us uninformed
              4. When did I say anything about conspiracy theories? What conspiracy theories do you think I believe in
              5. The Jews are not in charge of everything WHAT THE FUCK ARE TOU TALKING ABOUT. Why are you painting me with that brush? That’s… Weird.
          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
            221·
            4 months ago

            Hi. Jewish person here. Thinking Israel as a fascist regime is not antisemitic. Its just… Looking at what they’re doing and assessing it for what it is

            • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
              110·
              4 months ago

              I think we should not go down that rabbit hole. In the war between Israel and Gaza both sides did and do horrible things. Deciding which of the two sides is more evil is just not helping anybody.

              • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
                17·
                4 months ago

                Not saying either side is more evil right now. I’m just saying Israel is a fascist state. Because they are. This is something I’ve been saying since before I knew about Palestine. Israel is a fascist state. They have done nothing in the last 20 years to convince me they deserve to be seen in another light. They have every aspect of Umberto Ecco’s ur-fascism

                • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
                  27·
                  4 months ago

                  Ok then. I have no knowledge in that regard, so I won’t disagree 😅 In my ears “fascist” is usually including nazis (I am from Germany, so for me these 2 words have a “special bond” so to speak)

          • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
            7·
            4 months ago

            I guess we are running in different circles (which is likely, cause we probably don’t live in the same country :D ). I do not perceive it this way. The black and white thinking is a big problem social media is not helping with (and I don’t accuse you of it, its just a fact)

              • BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de
                5·
                4 months ago

                Sounds to me like it is more about the people aggressively proclaiming “we good everyone else evil” and not so much about the actual people that are being called woke by the likes of trump and other right wing extremists… The people who actually think of themselves as woke are usually not in the extreme spectrum you are referring to.

                I would think of myself as “woke” and I very much agree with your statement:

                I can definitely live with different opinions where opinions are reasonable (i don’t accept “opinions” that are just antisemitism or LGBT hate and similar things, actual racism and sexism just aren’t opinions)