It seems like there have been a lot of hints that he’s scheming to win in spite of the popular vote, through electoral vote and certification shenanigans, maybe an attempt to just make the situation muddy enough in enough different ways that it goes to his stacked Supreme Court in a manner partially reminiscent of the bullshit that installed GW Bush in 2000.
That’s a completely valid fear even if the predicted outcome was a landslide - the potential damage to our political stability is immense if he wins election. (He also might actively accelerate climate change and break a bunch of shit arguably more important than the American state).
Because the US has a fucked up system where a small state vote is worth more than a vote from a populous state.
It should be a simple popular vote and that’s it. Kill the electoral college and hopefully the Overton window will go left when no Republican president is elected for a few cycles.
I think the Dems know that, but we need a real majority and we haven’t had that since… Clinton? Obama had blue dog democrats and Biden had his two senators holding him up. We also are more willing to than ever to go with simple majority, too, which helps.
It would really turn the tide though, no way Dems aren’t considering it if we can get enough votes.
Sure, but there’s still absolutely a threat that people just don’t vote for Harris. We need to actually win the election before we worry about anything after it going wrong. Assume the votes actually matter, and prepare for them not to. Don’t assume they won’t matter and not vote because that makes it so they don’t even have to cheat and be exposed.
I’m still concerned Trump is going to win.
That is a valid concern. We need to work hard for the next 90+ days to prevent that.
He is a cornered animal and will fight more the closer we get to November.
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Social Security income shouldn’t be taxed, period. But billionaires should cover the difference, not other working Americans.
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I would be all for not taxing Social Security, and using taxes on the rich to pay for it.
I mean why are we giving them money to just take it away. It’s a Ronald Reagan thing, so that’s why it benefits the rich and kicks the poor.
So, let’s fix it! Great idea!
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Yes, we all should be. Make sure to vote.
It seems like there have been a lot of hints that he’s scheming to win in spite of the popular vote, through electoral vote and certification shenanigans, maybe an attempt to just make the situation muddy enough in enough different ways that it goes to his stacked Supreme Court in a manner partially reminiscent of the bullshit that installed GW Bush in 2000.
The country should have taken up arms in 2000 when a Repub SCOTUS illegally decided the election for the Repub candidate.
Possibly, but regardless vote. Force them to make that move and show their hand. Don’t just hand it to them.
That’s a completely valid fear even if the predicted outcome was a landslide - the potential damage to our political stability is immense if he wins election. (He also might actively accelerate climate change and break a bunch of shit arguably more important than the American state).
Might? Also don’t forget the impact on the geopolitical balance of power a Trump presidency would mean, especially at this precarious moment in time.
The race was 60/40 Trump and now it’s 50/50. It won’t get to more than 60/40 Harris ever. Either candidate winning is an extremely realistic scenario.
Because the US has a fucked up system where a small state vote is worth more than a vote from a populous state.
It should be a simple popular vote and that’s it. Kill the electoral college and hopefully the Overton window will go left when no Republican president is elected for a few cycles.
I think the Dems know that, but we need a real majority and we haven’t had that since… Clinton? Obama had blue dog democrats and Biden had his two senators holding him up. We also are more willing to than ever to go with simple majority, too, which helps.
It would really turn the tide though, no way Dems aren’t considering it if we can get enough votes.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
This is the energy I’m going to hold onto.
He’ll claim he won regardless of the actual results.
Me too, there’s a real danger of electoral votes rigging and election results not being certified in an expected manner or timeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/investigation-finds-dozens-of-election-deniers-now-hold-positions-overseeing-2024-vote/ar-BB1qPEru
Sure, but there’s still absolutely a threat that people just don’t vote for Harris. We need to actually win the election before we worry about anything after it going wrong. Assume the votes actually matter, and prepare for them not to. Don’t assume they won’t matter and not vote because that makes it so they don’t even have to cheat and be exposed.