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    5 months ago

    Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”

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      While entertaining for us, I don’t think that’d be a wise reaction. If she wants to win, she probably also needs to sway some people that are lifetime FOX junkies. Such a reaction could have a ‘basket of deplorables’ effect (being the stone cold truth, but hardly effective)

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        Being nice to idiots has proven to be hardly effective. Kamala needs to read word for word the arguments the Fox News lawyers made when they were in court for the dominion case. Fox News isn’t news it’s entertainment and they don’t employ journalists they employ entertainers. This is what Fox News said.

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          No, what she needs to do is win this election. That’s her job, everything else (like taking entertainment corpos to task for their shady tactics) comes secondary right now.

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            I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win. If she’s running on doing just that why wouldn’t she take a shot. Why hide? You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says? Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters and she could do that by saying the quiet part out loud.

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              I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win

              Okay, give me an argument why setting Fox straight will help her win the election, because just saying so isn’t an argument. I’d argue that time spent bickering ‘with Fox about Fox’ isn’t time spent getting people that wouldn’t otherwise vote for her, to vote for her. (and that, by the way, is how one impedes the other)

              Why hide?

              Nobody said she should hide.

              You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says?

              And this is the main point: Yes actually. If she makes salient points about matters that are dear to them, something is going to gnaw eventually. Have you seen Bernie Sanders’ appearances on the network? The audience definitely seems to be on his hand some of the time, just because he points out that what they have been told on the network isn’t making sense. It can be done. A bunch of them are a lost cause for sure, but certainly she ought to be able to get some of them to vote for her, she running against Trump (for fox sake!).

              Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters

              Agreed 100%, those also watch Fox though. And Trump spouting his garbage freely on that channel without opposing voices will not make them vote for Harris.

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                You really think it’s not ridiculous to point out how ridiculous it all is? There is value in calling out the elephant in the room however there’s no value in validating Fox News and giving into the grift. That only benefits Fox News and Trump.