• Zak@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Are you surprised by teenage boys making fake nudes of girls in their school? I’m surprised by how few of these cases have made the news.

    I don’t think there’s any way to put this cat back in the bag. We should probably work on teaching boys not to be horrible.

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      I’m not sure you can teach boys not to be horny teenagers 😜

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        Having been a teenage boy myself, I wouldn’t dream of trying.

        But I knew it wasn’t OK to climb a tree with binoculars to try to catch a glimpse of the girl next door changing clothes, and I knew it wasn’t OK to touch people without their consent. I knew people who did things like that were peeping toms and rapists. I believed peeping toms and rapists would be socially ostracized and legally punished more harshly than they often are in reality.

        Making and sharing deepfakes of real people without their consent belongs on the same spectrum.

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        Being horny is one thing, sharing this stuff another. If whoever did the fake would’ve kept it to themselves, then nobody would’ve even known. The headline still is ass and typical “AI” hysteria though.

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          They shouldn’t have generated it in the first place. How would you feel if people did that to your mom, or you, or your sisters, or your kids?

          I don’t think just keeping it to yourself is enough.

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            I don’t really care. People can and will fantasize in the same way about other people too and I’m not going to play thought police.

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            Man can you imagine? Someone cutting out my moms head and glues it on a porstar? I would kill myself.

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        We do eventually grow up at least

        … into horny men

        … but hopefully with a little more empathy and propriety.

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      There are always two paths to take - take away all of humanity’s tools or aggressively police people who abuse them. No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it, and for society to function properly we have to do something about the delinquent minority of society.

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        No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it,

        Hydraulic press channel guy offended you somehow? I’m missing something here.

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          No, just an example. But if you’ve ever noticed the giant list of safety warnings on industrial machinery, you should know that every single one of those rules was written in blood.

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            Either Darwin awards or assholes, most likely. Those warnings are written due to fear of lawsuit.

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            However this tool doesn’t have any safety warnings written on it. The App they used specifically caters for use-cases like this. They advertise to use it unmorally and we have technology to tell age from pictures for like 10 years. And they deliberately chose to have their tool generate pictures of like 13 yo girls. In the tool analogy that’s like selling a jigsaw that you’re very well aware of, misses some well established safety standards and is likely to injure someone. And it’s debatable whether it was made to cut wood anyways, or just injure people.
            And the rest fits, too. No company address, located in some country where they can’t be persecuted… They’re well aware of the use-case of their App.

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          I don’t think they’re offended. I think they’re saying that a tool is a tool. A gun or AI are only dangerous if misused, like a hydraulic press.

          We can’t go around removing the tools because some people will abuse them. Any tool can kill someone.

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            Guns have no other purpose though, they shouldn’t be lumped in with the rest of that list (except hunting rifles and so on, for folks that actually need them).

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        We could also do a better job of teaching people from childhood not to be assholes.

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      It’s like these x-ray apps that obviously didn’t work but promoted to see all the women naked. Somehow that was very cool and no one cared. Suddenly there is something that kinda works and everyone is shocked.

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      Teenagers are literally retarded. Like their reasoning centers are not developed and they physically cannot think. There’s no way to teach that

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        No, they’re not fully developed, but they distinguish actions morally speaking (even older children do) and they can choose to do better.