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      I’ll follow your link, and also comment to say that what OP mentions sounds like the possible future of Doctorow’s Makers.

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    What does that even mean? Manufacturing is messy, you have to mess with actual physical stuff, it’s not just bits. Having all the blueprints for a refrigerator is a long way from being able to actually build it economically.

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      Imo open source doesnt explicitly mean “you can build it yourself”
      What it does stand for is that incase of issues it can be looked at and resolved. Be it finding the broken component, or looking at the designs and reporting the fault. Both of which improve the thing that is open sourced.
      As an example : the framework laptop. Its partly open source, so in case of issues i could bring it to a repairshop which then can easily look at the designs, and figure the fault.
      Or what i did with my home server sbc : get the schematics, figure out a manufactoring fault ( cracked solder on pci lane ), fix it and report it to the manufacturer ( which then investigated if it was a one off or if a solder type change was needed ).

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          Depending on the angle, yes. If its for repairs, then yes. If its for product (manufactoring) improvements, then no. Im a software developer that often collaborates with other teams of open source software. I report, and sometimes fix, bugs so it improves the overal product for everyone. I wouldnt put that under right to repair, as it has nothing to do with repairing it yourself and more with improving a product for everyone by tackling a problem with the product at the source.

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              Reporting the bug without fixing it is not repairing the software :p
              This is a topic about manufactoring, thats a different thing as its more based on processes and blueprints

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      Having a blueprint skips the “development” phase. Then you make instructions on how to build the stuff and be open to support through issues. From experience it works.

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    More specifically, I have a generator. It is incased in plastic. It stopped working and it is not designed for large hands. My dad pulled out a generator that is 60 years old and it runs like a charm. Brigs and Stratton motor. Everything is on the outside easy to work on. Why can’t someone reinvent it and make it open source.

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      At that age, there’s a great chance that the patent filing on that generator is about to become public property.

      Corporations have been working hard to make the common person forget that the only reason patents have ever been granted (officially) was to induce inventors to document their designs for future public use.

      It’s a big part of why the stuff you can get cheap from China nowadays is often surprisingly good quality, as long as it’s an older, tried and true, technology.

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      You mean to make a documentation on the design and how to build it from scratch? There is the Open-source hardware community which is doing stuff like that; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware

      It’s just a lot of work and much more complicated than open-sourcing software source code. That is - I guess - why so few people do it. On top of it there are not many people who would reuse it because for most people it’s cheaper and good enough to get a modern version from a commercial vendor.

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    Absolutely it is and it’s a growing movement, my 3d printer is old and cheap but it’s already stopped me buying a whole class of products (i.e. small plastic fixings and cases) the newer technologies are incredibly cool especially some of the pick-and-place enabled multi toolhead models.

    Since I first started following the reprap project home fabrication has increased in quality massively, there are a lot of sites with endless things you can download that have continually improved over the years. CAD and slicers have improved hugely, they’re going to continue to at an increasing rate not only as more people use them but coding tools are getting better too - my projects have benefitted hugely from ai streamlining the coding process I’m sure CAD software writers are benefitting too.

    We’re not too far from ai gen CAD which will be a game changer, having chat gpt style ai help guide you through putting together open source projects will help users too - being able to say ‘i need to upgrade the motor in my washing macjine’ and ai can help select a range of options ‘this motor and that controller or thia controller and that motor…’ finding local companies that will fabricate the parts for you so they plug into the bits you fabricate at home, or local companies fabrication open source designs.

    Collaborative design projects are the key, I’ve been working with a few people trying to find methods that make it easy for large amounts of people doing small things to make meaningful progress on big projects. I think it’ll become common for most people to be involved in at least some form of collaborative project once people are used to using open source designed items fabricated in the way generics are.

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      Digital twins also hold a lot of promise along those lines. If we can lower the barrier to make or modify them at least, then even if you don’t have the means to actually make something yourself you can still contribute with some level of certainty that it actually makes sense (passing models, and tests for example).

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        Absolutely, I think general people being able to participate with testing and design ideas would be a huge boost for those that design stuff, it’s so difficult having to work out what to try and determining what works, also building information about the product, researching methods and comparing them, etc. I think it could be a really interesting system where there’s useful work to be done at every level.

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    Feasible, yes.

    The future? I hope so. We’re nowhere near that yet, with the current economic paradigm focusing on patents and profit.

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    There are opensource 3d printers, EDM, CNC, Belt grinders, robotic arms, pick in place machines, reflow controllers, plasma cutting tables, lazer cuters, and tractors.

    That covers an insane range of what could be made diy, towards mid scale manufacturing using all opensource tools

    So yes to one, maybe to the latter. It still takes real labor hours to make all these things so the cost is out of reach for a lot of people. Community owned Maker spaces can be remarkable places to help give people access to tools though. My one I belong to has a couple people making a living making jewelry out of there for example.