Hundreds of protesters stormed the Swedish embassy in Baghdad in the early hours of Thursday morning and set it on fire, a source familiar with the matter and a Reuters witness said, in a protest against the expected burning of a Koran in Sweden.

  • 520@kbin.social
    2·
    1 year ago

    Some people do see things like bible burnings as a way of making a threat that those who believe in it are next

    Usually because they’ve been told as much by reactionary religious leaders attempting to profit from it. Whether Christian, Muslim, etc, that’s usually how it goes down.

    similar to cross burning being used as a threat against black people

    Except cross burning by the KKK was always meant as an overt threat; even the KKK did not pretend it was anything else.

    regardless of the stated intent (people lie btw).

    The problem there is, how are you gonna hold an effective protest while trying to hide your message? Dog whistles only work when you’re already preaching to the choir.

    unlike 10s of millions of white Christian men in America, Iraqi people have a good reason to be distrustful.

    Of a protest in Sweden? Why?

    I’m also not going to be quick to dismiss their fears when 100s of thousands (maybe millions) of civilians in Iraq have been murdered in the last two decades, largely allowed because of racism and islamophobia.

    Are you seriously comparing the aftermath of 9/11 to a Quran burning in Sweden? I think you’re struggling a bit with the concepts of scope and scale…

    • WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social
      11·
      1 year ago

      Of a protest in Sweden? Why?

      Are you seriously comparing the aftermath of 9/11 to a Quran burning in Sweden? I think you’re struggling a bit with the concepts of scope and scale…

      What does 9/11 have to do with this conversation? We’re talking about Iraq. Nothing to do with 9/11, except the islamophobia and xenophobia that spread as a result of 9/11.

      Sweden is practically part of NATO, and has been long since they formally began the process of officially joining. The fact that NATO members murdered huge numbers of civilians within the lifetime of even young adults is pretty relevant seems relevant to why Iraqis might be a bit spooked by perceived threats of violence by islamophobes.

      • 520@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        What does 9/11 have to do with this conversation? We’re talking about Iraq. Nothing to do with 9/11, except the islamophobia and xenophobia that spread as a result of 9/11.

        You’re the one that indirectly brought it up and tried to compare it to a simple fucking protest in Sweden. Don’t be disingenuous.

        Sweden is practically part of NATO, and has been long since they formally began the process of officially joining. The fact that NATO members murdered huge numbers of civilians within the lifetime of even young adults is pretty relevant seems relevant to why Iraqis might be a bit spooked by perceived threats of violence by islamophobes.

        Wow. That’s such a huge leap in logic it’s actually quite comical.

        First of all, the US wasn’t in Iraq on a NATO mission. NATO themselves kept out of it, the most they did during the conflict was send aid to Turkey, who borders Iraq.

        Secondly the protestors in Sweden are just that. They are not NATO combatants, nor combatants in general.

        Thirdly, the protesters in Sweden aren’t fucking going to Iraq. They don’t even care about Iraq, they don’t even mention Iraq.

        Why would Iraqis think they are facing an existential threat because of a protest in Sweden that has literally nothing to do with them? They dont. It’s not about that.