I kind of hate that this distinctly centre-right version of a labour party is going to consider themselves as given a mandate to fill their centre-right boots, despite the fact that they’re only as powerful as they are because of how utterly toxic the Tory party have become. Largely from chasing the same ends that this labour government will likely continue to chase.
Not only that, but people think we’re about to have a left wing government (mostly because the media tells them so, and school didn’t teach them any better), and when nothing changes (at best) they’re going to use it as “proof” that leftism doesn’t work and fall in to the hands of even further right populists, rather than face the reality - that they’ve just elected more of the same, and that the system was designed to never serve us, only the establishment.
Personally I know more people who’ve moved away from Labour than to it, I just acknowledge that people outside of cities exist and that I live in something of a bubble.
Refusing to accept that is the sort of thinking that gets Reform so many votes as many people in large cities forget that the majority of the population don’t live in cities, and so don’t suffer from the problems there so much (higher cost of living and lower labour availability than rural areas) and so don’t care so much about progressive or socialist policies.
EDIT: sorry, it’s late, I misread, I’ll keep this up and maybe edit again later because I’m too sleepy to respond to what you actually said right now
I think this analysis is spot on. People are complex and tend to be self-interested IRL; even moreso the older they get.
Like people might realise that there is a housing crisis but once they become a home owner, then the lure of being a NIMBY to maximise the value of their property becomes too tempting.
Unfortunately, leftist movements in the UK tend to be idiotically self hating towards our country at best and commonly supports the literal dissolution of the United Kingdom which turns most moderates away.
I kind of hate that this distinctly centre-right version of a labour party is going to consider themselves as given a mandate to fill their centre-right boots, despite the fact that they’re only as powerful as they are because of how utterly toxic the Tory party have become. Largely from chasing the same ends that this labour government will likely continue to chase.
Not only that, but people think we’re about to have a left wing government (mostly because the media tells them so, and school didn’t teach them any better), and when nothing changes (at best) they’re going to use it as “proof” that leftism doesn’t work and fall in to the hands of even further right populists, rather than face the reality - that they’ve just elected more of the same, and that the system was designed to never serve us, only the establishment.
“Think of how much damage, in the wake of 14 years of mismanagement, an even more left wing party might do! Never again!”
Nobody thinks we’re going to have a truly left wing government, as for whatever reason vanishingly few people want to vote for that.
Lol, nobody you’ve spoken to perhaps. Also if they didn’t already, just wait for the media to pitch in over the next couple of years…
Personally I know more people who’ve moved away from Labour than to it, I just acknowledge that people outside of cities exist and that I live in something of a bubble.
Refusing to accept that is the sort of thinking that gets Reform so many votes as many people in large cities forget that the majority of the population don’t live in cities, and so don’t suffer from the problems there so much (higher cost of living and lower labour availability than rural areas) and so don’t care so much about progressive or socialist policies.
EDIT: sorry, it’s late, I misread, I’ll keep this up and maybe edit again later because I’m too sleepy to respond to what you actually said right now
I think this analysis is spot on. People are complex and tend to be self-interested IRL; even moreso the older they get.
Like people might realise that there is a housing crisis but once they become a home owner, then the lure of being a NIMBY to maximise the value of their property becomes too tempting.
Unfortunately, leftist movements in the UK tend to be idiotically self hating towards our country at best and commonly supports the literal dissolution of the United Kingdom which turns most moderates away.
Yeah I don’t really like it either, but TBH things are so bad that just destroying the Tories is good enough for me this time around.
Hopefully they’ll be radioactively unelectable for a really long time, and we can push it in a better direction over the next couple of elections.