cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847

@Snowden

The DNC is the only reason you’re not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    And then they still lose because no one’s going to pick Diet Republican over the real deal.

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      6 months ago

      Except Bill Clinton won. Biden won. They learned from Carter and Hillary Clinton respectively to not stick your neck out. Even Obama was running on broad and vague “hope” instead of actually saying anything specific. Obama learned that from Gore losing, to not actually say anything and stick your neck out. So no, you have it backwards. They win when they go to the center.

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          6 months ago

          You doubt that Bill Clinton won? You doubt that Biden won? What is going on here. They won, and they won by going to the center.

          And lol 5 downvotes for me and 5 up for you in half an hour on a 2 day old thread. Not sus at all lol.

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            6 months ago

            No I doubt that they won because of appealing to centrist when we keep seeing in House/Senate races that actual Leftists keep beating Diet Republicans and Real Republicans… also keep beating Diet Republicans.

            And if you’re accusing me of something, just come out and say it.

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              6 months ago

              They literally win by going to the center. A center vote is worth double because you get a vote and you take a bow away from the other party. Every time the Dems lose they go to the center to find voters.

              What are you on about the house and Senate, they lose there too. Bill Clinton had both for 2 of 8 years. Obama same thing, had it for only 2 of 8 years. Biden so far had it for 2 of 4 years. This is why progress is slow, because they lose that too and they need all 3 to actually pass anything. GOP can block with only 1. So they do to the center to find house and Senate seats. Dems have had all 3 houses for 4 of the last 24 years. Or 6 of the last 32 years. Or 6 or the last 44 years. That’s why progress is so slow.

              And I did say it.

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              6 months ago

              Biden won by going for the center. Biden didn’t run left, he ran center. Plus, when you go against an incumbent you run a center candidate, that’s what he was and that’s what he did.

              And I’m not whining, I’m literally laughing lol. Like what gymnastics do you have to do to think anything else lol.

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        6 months ago

        How did Gore stick his neck out? That election was a long time ago, but I don’t remember Gore being some kind of radical.

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          6 months ago

          Gore, who was famously a climate advocate, yes before and after the election. Hmmmm let me think about that.