From David Sirota’s The Lever

  • Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    No one is going to bike 15 miles for a dozen eggs, and no one is going to build a supermarket closer than that, and I’m nowhere near an extreme case. It will take more than a century to restructure the US away from individual vehicles, if it’s done at an insanely fast pace.

    Public transport relies on the value of having a public around the stops, or the ability to concentrate the public in crossroad areas. It’s already too late for that in the US, and will take multiple generations of land transfer to fix it. The entire country was literally built on expansionism and isolationism. Fixing our cities is the easy part, and that alone will take more than all government expenditure ever, over half a century at the least. And that’s assuming we don’t go bankrupt simply supporting the retiring population we have right now, let alone additional expenditures.

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      1 year ago

      Supermarkets would be replaced with multiple markets in walking distance after removing the zoning that excludes retail from being within walking distance of residential areas.

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        No one is building shit within walking distance of nowhere. There’s less than 200 people within 20 miles of me, and I’ve moved to a more crowded area. No market is going to fix that. The nearest zoning law is probably a hundred miles away. And supermarkets didn’t defeat small stores because of zoning, it’s because economies of scale are more efficient.

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          In rural areas where population is the issue and not zoning, that is true.

          In any city with 10 thousand residents or more it tends to be the zoning that keeps stores from opening up in the suburbs and other new development. There they tend to go big becsuse they are far enough away that they might as well be big enough to draw from as far away as possible.

          Most people live in the latter areas and that is what is being discussed.

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            1 year ago

            They’re talking about replacing cars with public transportation which is fucking ridiculous for the majority of the country due to low population density and large distances. There’s no amount of zoning changes that are going to fix that. Also, creating walkable cities is a great goal, with zero chance of happening in the US. It would be asking home owners and businesses to throw away existing investments, or forcing them to. Guess how well either of those options is going to go over. Especially in an aging populace with nothing but investment income.