• dinckel@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You will never achieve long-term relevance, by chasing immediately available buzzwords

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      How long does AI need to be used, and how much demand needs to be sustained, for it to stop being called a “buzzword”? I’m a little dubious that NVIDIA became literally the most highly-valued company on Earth off the back of a mere “buzzword.”

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        Can you reminds us what the current state of NFTs is? Or most crypto? Web3 tech? This is next.

        Of course Nvidia are the highest-valued company. They capitalized on idiots misusing the technology, until it created issues in society, for personal gain.

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          Why are you explicitly picking those examples, and not things like IoT, DevOps and Edge computing, all buzzwords, all successful and still in general existence today?

          You’re cherry picking failed buzzwords and using them as proof that “AI” will fail.

          To be clear, I agree that LLMs are bullshit for 95% of applications they are being put into. But at least argue in good faith.

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          How do any of those things have anything to do with LLMs? You’re just listing a bunch of random tech that isn’t particularly impactful and claiming that another unrelated thing must be a failure.

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          Can you remind me how those technologies are related, other than the mere accusation of them being “buzzwords”?

          Cryptocurrency is actually doing fine, BTW. Just because you don’t find it useful doesn’t mean it’s not useful to other people.

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            Crypto is doing kind-of ok. But what about other blockchain apps and startups, or blockchain integrations into every tech imaginable? There were so many popping up, just like there are with AI now. Business models and use-cases that are based solely on the hype of the tech in question, without any consideration about whether it’s actually a good fit for the tech. That is the point, and what it has common with AI and other “buzzwords”.

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          I am an end user and I find it quite handy for a number of applications.

          The reasoning “I don’t find it useful and therefore nobody finds it useful” is common in these sorts of threads.

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              You made an assertion about what end users want. I’m an end user and my desires are not the same as your desires.

              But if the sentiment is that common, maybe there’s something to it.

              Or maybe it’s just a common fallacy. Like argumentum ad populum.

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                I made a generalization based on the abundance of comments from people saying they don’t want AI. Your desires may not be the desires of the majority of users.

                Or maybe it’s just a common fallacy. Like argumentum ad populum.

                It’s not. Saying a bunch of people don’t want something because a bunch of people are saying they don’t want it isn’t argumentum ad populum. I never made an assessment about whether AI was good or bad.

                If you want to argue that Lemmy doesn’t represent users at large, or that the people complaining about AI are a loud minority, go for it. But the vast majority of comments on anything AI related seem opposed to it.

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                  Using the comments from Lemmy is clearly a case of selection bias. It would be like running a poll at a gym to see how many people think exercise is important. Or asking lemmy users if Linux is better than Windows. “The people I hang around have the same opinion as me” isn’t really a good litmus test for “does this actually represent public opinion.”

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                  If you want to argue that Lemmy doesn’t represent users at large, or that the people complaining about AI are a loud minority, go for it.

                  Yes, that’s exactly what I’m doing. Though specifically this community, not Lemmy as a whole (I’m not a Lemmy user myself for that matter).

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                I’m with you on this one. I love Lemmy, but it’s a small community here and skews towards a very specific foss tech nerd demographic that doesn’t represent the general population in any way. It seems like most users are aware of that but not everybody is self-aware enough to realize that. I like trying out AI features, I like to see them be integrated into software so they can be more useful. They’re not perfect at all but just because they’re not perfect doesn’t mean they should be abandoned in their entirety.

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        AI may have its uses, but the easy counterpoint to your argument is to look at FTX at its peak and where it is now (bankrupt). The stock exchange is the exact opposite of rational, and is terrible at estimating the use one can get out of tech.

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          FTX was a cryptocurrency exchange, how is that remotely similar to NVIDIA?