That would foster a bad community and may cause actual harm to people though, so we all recognize that it’s wrong.
I guess we’ll have to disagree on that. Since no one would be forced to participate no one should be harmed.
I am sure as an enjoyer of c/greentext you can appreciate the comedic value of such an unmoderated cesspool.
When someone affected chimes in and actual harm is potentially caused I might reconsider my foul mouth. I am not going to censor myself proactively to goose step in line. Every word we give up to whoever “uses it wrong” gives them power. I am not going to do that.
I am sure as an enjoyer of c/greentext you can appreciate the comedic value of such an unmoderated cesspool.
As someone who used 4chan a very long time ago, I appreciate the comedic value in how much of a cesspit it is, not because the people there are valuable. I spent a while there seeing death threads (threads of video/images of people dying) and all kinds of other messed up things. Do I assume those things are good things for people to see though? Absolutely not.
Every word we give up to whoever “uses it wrong” gives them power. I am not going to do that.
First, we aren’t “losing” words because language changes. We gain many more instead.
Second, who’s “them” that are gaining power. You seem to have an imaginary enemy you’re fighting. I can promise you you’ll lose because “they” aren’t real. No one is trying to control you. They’re only trying to keep you from harming other people. “They” also tell you not to assault people and you listen (I assume) despite it forcing you into a position you didn’t choose yourself.
Being an asshole isn’t something to be proud of just because you’re sticking it to some made up enemy. You’re choosing to let a made up enemy control you instead by fighting against them instead of making choices for yourself.
I quoted exactly what I was referring to from your comment…
Also, you’re one to talk. How about trying to not use ad hominems to try to dismiss someone’s arguments just because you don’t want to listen. If you have an issue understanding something, you can ask. I didn’t say anything particularly complex though.
How is attempting to be polite radical? I’m not arguing I’m not “radicalized” (I pretty much am, and that’s not an insult), but this isn’t.
I think I have heard enough. Careful you might be a case for /c/meanwhileongrad
If you truly think I have to listen to you you’re more delusional than I thought. I believe in IDIC. Just because I don’t understand the way you think doesn’t mean you aren’t valuable.
I think I have heard enough. Careful you might be a case for /c/meanwhileongrad
I’m anti-authoritarianism, so no I don’t fit there. Sorry. I’m just pro-kindness.
If you truly think I have to listen to you you’re more delusional than I thought.
Where did I imply you have to listen to me? I’m pretty sure I explicitly said to make a choice for yourself. I just also said you can choose kindness and empathy, or you can choose selfishness because you are mad about change.
I believe in IDIC. Just because I don’t understand the way you think doesn’t mean you aren’t valuable.
Good. People will assume you don’t think they’re valuable if you use their condition as an insult though. They’ll assume that you think they’re lesser, because you’re saying being who they are is a bad thing. You understand how that could feel bad, right?
dehumanizing people by stating they have no value is pro-kindness. News to me.
You understand how that could feel bad, right?
No, still think you are wrong. Have you heard black folk talk to each other, do they feel bad?
I know someone who would have been described as retarded in the past. I asked him, he doesn’t mind, he doubts any sane person with his disability would mind.
So stop being retarded yourself and stop advocating for groups you are not a part of that don’t want none of your screeching.
Coming into this instance, and stinking up the place. Other admins would have defederated, good thing we have a great admin.
(yes, hyperbole)
dehumanizing people by stating they have no value is pro-kindness. News to me.
What? Quote me where I did that. I did not do that.
No, still think you are wrong. Have you heard black folk talk to each other, do they feel bad?
Wow, the “but they use that word!” argument. Context is important. Just like retard in music just means to slow down, how, when, and who uses words can change things.
I know someone who would have been described as retarded in the past. I asked him, he doesn’t mind, he doubts any sane person with his disability would mind.
Also, the “but I have a ___ friend” argument. Hitting all of the classics right now, aren’t you? One person does not make rule. I’ve heard from others that they don’t appreciate it.
So stop being retarded yourself and stop advocating for groups you are not a part of that don’t want none of your screeching.
Nice insults. Good argument. Which one of us is “screeching?”
I’ll advocate for every group. All people are valuable
Coming into this instance, and stinking up the place. Other admins would have defederated, good thing we have a great admin.
(yes, hyperbole)
Other admins would have defederated from what? All other instances? I’m from a pretty small technology focused instance. You think your admin should defederated from us? Why? Because you don’t like one person who’s trying to get you to be a better person? Doesn’t that seem a but much? Are you OK? You can talk about whatever’s bothering you.
I guess we’ll have to disagree on that. Since no one would be forced to participate no one should be harmed.
I am sure as an enjoyer of c/greentext you can appreciate the comedic value of such an unmoderated cesspool.
When someone affected chimes in and actual harm is potentially caused I might reconsider my foul mouth. I am not going to censor myself proactively to goose step in line. Every word we give up to whoever “uses it wrong” gives them power. I am not going to do that.
Good talk. Thanks for taking the time.
As someone who used 4chan a very long time ago, I appreciate the comedic value in how much of a cesspit it is, not because the people there are valuable. I spent a while there seeing death threads (threads of video/images of people dying) and all kinds of other messed up things. Do I assume those things are good things for people to see though? Absolutely not.
First, we aren’t “losing” words because language changes. We gain many more instead.
Second, who’s “them” that are gaining power. You seem to have an imaginary enemy you’re fighting. I can promise you you’ll lose because “they” aren’t real. No one is trying to control you. They’re only trying to keep you from harming other people. “They” also tell you not to assault people and you listen (I assume) despite it forcing you into a position you didn’t choose yourself.
Being an asshole isn’t something to be proud of just because you’re sticking it to some made up enemy. You’re choosing to let a made up enemy control you instead by fighting against them instead of making choices for yourself.
Are you hallucinating? What does anything you wrote have to do with what I said?
Maybe you should de-radicalize yourself, or idk, meet normal people irl.
I quoted exactly what I was referring to from your comment…
Also, you’re one to talk. How about trying to not use ad hominems to try to dismiss someone’s arguments just because you don’t want to listen. If you have an issue understanding something, you can ask. I didn’t say anything particularly complex though.
How is attempting to be polite radical? I’m not arguing I’m not “radicalized” (I pretty much am, and that’s not an insult), but this isn’t.
I think I have heard enough. Careful you might be a case for /c/meanwhileongrad
If you truly think I have to listen to you you’re more delusional than I thought. I believe in IDIC. Just because I don’t understand the way you think doesn’t mean you aren’t valuable.
I’m anti-authoritarianism, so no I don’t fit there. Sorry. I’m just pro-kindness.
Where did I imply you have to listen to me? I’m pretty sure I explicitly said to make a choice for yourself. I just also said you can choose kindness and empathy, or you can choose selfishness because you are mad about change.
Good. People will assume you don’t think they’re valuable if you use their condition as an insult though. They’ll assume that you think they’re lesser, because you’re saying being who they are is a bad thing. You understand how that could feel bad, right?
That’s a good one.
dehumanizing people by stating they have no value is pro-kindness. News to me.
No, still think you are wrong. Have you heard black folk talk to each other, do they feel bad?
I know someone who would have been described as retarded in the past. I asked him, he doesn’t mind, he doubts any sane person with his disability would mind.
So stop being retarded yourself and stop advocating for groups you are not a part of that don’t want none of your screeching.
Coming into this instance, and stinking up the place. Other admins would have defederated, good thing we have a great admin.
(yes, hyperbole)
What? Quote me where I did that. I did not do that.
Wow, the “but they use that word!” argument. Context is important. Just like retard in music just means to slow down, how, when, and who uses words can change things.
Also, the “but I have a ___ friend” argument. Hitting all of the classics right now, aren’t you? One person does not make rule. I’ve heard from others that they don’t appreciate it.
Nice insults. Good argument. Which one of us is “screeching?”
I’ll advocate for every group. All people are valuable
Other admins would have defederated from what? All other instances? I’m from a pretty small technology focused instance. You think your admin should defederated from us? Why? Because you don’t like one person who’s trying to get you to be a better person? Doesn’t that seem a but much? Are you OK? You can talk about whatever’s bothering you.