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      Depending on where you are from, there won’t be much change in the price the experts say… But grain to poor countries in for example Africa will be effected much more.

      So Putin is mad about losing in Ukraine, so now Africa have to suffer also …

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          To be fair, from what I’ve seen on Twitter, tons and tons of Africans are supporting Russia and Putin’s ego war so they can get fucked by Russia as much as they want. They will blame Ukraine for not surrendering earlier.

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            Just remember there’s 48 countries, not just “Africa”. Depending which country or even which area of a country you’re looking, you’ll find a part of Africa ruining Africa or a part of Africa being ruined by Africa. It’s a socially and politically wild place, mostly due to corruption and sectarianism. So, while a few support Russia, others are aiding Ukraine, others entirely indifferent to what’s going on.

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              Just remember there’s 48 countries, not just “Africa”.

              The numbers: 15 abstained on the UN condemnation vote. 23 opposed condemning. 10 voted to condemn.

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            Imagine condemning an entire continent based off what you, a random clown, saw a few bots say on Twitter. You are the useful idiot. How is this drivel positively voted on lmao

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              random clown

              useful idiot

              Wow, well my man, you sure know how to look like an intelligent human being if the first and only argument you have is throwing insult at random people.

              I’m sure you have a lot of friend.

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                I’m not here to argue with you. I’m here to point out your blatant xenophobia and how wrong it is. Have a nice day.

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                  That’s the most idiotic thing I have ever read on the internet the whole week but it’s only Monday so you have nothing to be proud of. Take back your stupid shit you are spewing and do not ever communicate with me again ever.

                  You too have a wonderful day 😊

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            After what the West did to Africa, can you really blame them for supporting Russian and Chinese foreign policy, especially when both nations have shown a far greater willingness to invest in the continent in recent years?

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              Russia also benefits very heavily from goodwill in Africa generated by the Soviet Union’s colonial liberation legacy. A very large number of states there owe their sovereignty to Soviet support in overthrowing colonial rule.

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            I think this is ultimately why the deal was struck in the first place to be honest. It wasn’t hurting the right people.

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    Nothing new for russians, they have have been starving people on purpose for decades. Just look at holodomor.

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    Russia pulls out of grain deal > Russia causes global food price increase > Russia causes poorer families in US/EU to go hungry > Russia is engaging a war of aggression on NATO > ARTICLE 5

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      Not that simple: Here’s article 5:

      “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

      Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

      Article 5 is invoked If it constitutes an armed attack. In this case, food insecurity is not an armed attack.

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        Putin used his hands, therefore arms, to sign the decision which means it’s an armed attack. ARTICLE 5

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            That’s your fault for not having bear arms as the second amendment wanted you to.

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          Are you sure you want WWIII? Because that’s basically what you are preaching.

          Listening to the stories of my grandparents, another World War is not something I want

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      If you apply the same logic to US sanctions on north korea, Cuba, Venezuela etc etc they all have casus belli to nuke america. It’s a silly justification.

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      He’s trying to cause an immigration crisis; people in Africa can’t afford food so they will try to immigrate to Europe, either legally or not, and strain the resources and increase cultural divides. It was the whole reason Putin started fucking with the grain supply as soon as he could. He was hoping the immigration crisis and energy crisis would overlap and make each other worse, but The Netherlands recently dissolved their government over the immigration crisis, so now is good too.

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    This is likely the trigger to Ukraine air space becoming a no fly zone defended by allies.