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Traffic on the single bridge that links Russia to Moscow-annexed Crimea and serves as a key supply route for the Kremlin’s forces in the war with Ukraine came to a standstill on Monday after one of its sections was blown up, killing a couple and wounding their daughter.
The RBC Ukraine news agency reported that explosions were heard on the bridge, with Russian military bloggers reporting two strikes.
RBC Ukraine and another Ukrainian news outlet Ukrainska Pravda said the attack was planned jointly by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the Ukrainian navy, and involved sea drones.
I couldn’t care less what this fascist’s take is, and I find it really sus that you admonished me on the mistake with whoever that golden dawn guy was but then refer to a fascist yourself while calling him a liberal.
A small group that functioned as a vanguard. And played the pivotal role in its success. This has been written about quite a lot. I assume you’re familiar with vanguardism I’ve seen you use enough terms here to think you’re a little above average in understanding of political ideologies.
The sniper thing is rather disputed, at least by my socialist friends in crimea. They claim this was performed by the right sector fascists. What the truth is of it though I’m not really sure, the research I’m familiar with seems rather inconclusive. Personally I think the picture is that there were probably both fascist and government shooters involved.
https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine
“Procedure” is whatever people will popularly accept in an event like this. You get to make it up as you go along and as long as the various factions willing to do violence will agree with it you’re good.
There’s some fuckery involved with Russia certainly but it’s not as simple as that. Some of it was a communist effort. I don’t know if it was you earlier in this thread but I did mention earlier that I have friends there that aren’t around anymore. Several communists that were involved were killed, either in mysterious circumstances or going missing. The communist party of the dpr also endorsed Alexander Zakharchenkov as he was ideologically beneficial to their goals but he was killed in a cafe bombing and pro-Russia leadership (Strelkov) conveniently took over. Ukraine was blamed for that bombing but I am personally convinced it was Russia that did it to align the balance of power in the emerging states with themselves. Infighting in the party (along with the murders and disappearances) then later led to its merger with the CPRF which further convinces me that they were involved in eliminating the various groups that sought independent interests.
You know where those “fascist” accusations come from? Precisely that kind of stuff, “X belongs to Russia”. Anyhow I cited him as an example of the opposition FFS, not because I share those kinds of view which should’ve been obvious. As to “liberal”: That’s exactly what he’s classed as in Russia. After the 2022 invasion portions of the opposition did start to reflect on imperialism in a more thorough manner than “doing things by force bad but actually yes Ukraine is Russia” but with the current state of things, well, prison, keeping their head down, or in exile. Not to mention that opposition is not exactly a majority position the majority position is “I don’t care about politics that’s a thing for politicians I just want to have a job and a Dacha”. Utter depoliticisation. Fatalism runs deep in Russia.
Well, point being that they didn’t have to make it up but an ordinary impeachment procedure would’ve taken a while. In any case any iffiness resulting from that, questions about constitutionality etc. were made up for by elections not soon after. Also, Yanukovych already had fled, the office of president was de facto without incumbent.
Yet you referred to the whole thing as a “coup/revolution”. It was, big picture and the result, neither of those two but the people not liking that the government they elected reneged on promises and then had themselves new elections for a new government: Neither did suddenly the military reign (coup), nor did the country get a complete make-over, new constitution etc. (revolution), it was a, well, let’s call it a special electoral operation. In more established democracies those things happen more smoothly and without violence, but early elections aren’t exactly a particularly rare thing. Yanukovych probably assumed his handlers would send him backup just as they had in Belarus.
Yanukovych’s protest law btw was much iffier when it comes to constitutionality as the Rada didn’t actually have the votes to pass it. Also, shit only really hit the fan once he doubled down like that.
Yeah I know but they’re irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Communists of the type you refer to exist all over Europe, they’re tiny, cultist, splinter factions. Well-organised but without the manpower to do anything, least of all stage a revolution. Do I need to remind you that “done by people calling themselves communist” doesn’t imply “popular support”, which you were insinuating. In this situation they were useful idiots for the FSB.
This is not true in France, Portugal, Spain, Greece, Norway or Austria where communists have significant presence in governance and rapidly rising support. I agree with you that we’re struggling elsewhere on the continent, for the most part. I think the generalisation is unfair given these aren’t exactly unimportant countries. Are you American? This topic is much more interesting and would be way less hostile than it has been up to now between us.
Not those kinds of communists. GUE/NGL parties range in self-identification from communist to democratic socialist and are indeed quite large and established, even if they don’t have huge electoral successes in many countries. S&D is generally way more popular, socdems of various intensities. GUE/NGL is proportionally strongest in Greece, Cyprus, Portugal and Ireland (at least by EU election results I can’t be arsed to go through national ones). They’re not the kind of party who would stage a coup and then falsify elections.
The splinter groups I was talking about are the like of the German MLDP who get less than 0.1%, compared to Die Linke which isn’t unaccustomed to double-digit results. Best MLDP result ever was 0.4% in the 2006 Sachsen-Anhalt state elections. Which, of course, fits into their ideology, they believe that capitalism can only be overcome by a revolution and its vanguard. You know the type, in fact I think you’re deeply familiar with it. Occasionally they manage to get a seat on the municipal level. They don’t have a group in the European Parliament because they don’t get in.
I’m not actually referring to this bunch, although they’re certainly one you could. I am referring mainly to national results. I think however that your measurement comes from “election results” whereas this is misleading with regards to communist activities in any given country. Take france for example where you could measure the activity of communists by the results of the PCF. This however is not the sum of communist activity or strategy in the country. The vast majority of Melenchon supporters would be communists if the soft option did not exist. Most of us are revolutionaries in one breath and democratic socialists in another. It entirely depends on the circumstances. I live in Britain, I firmly believe revolution is the only path to socialism, does that mean I’m a revolutionary in the british conditions though? Fuck no it doesn’t there is no chance of a revolution right now. Thus my activity takes place through other channels and work, in the trade union movement and in electoral groups.
Germany is a huge problem right now there is a massive swing rightwards occurring. The socdem to fascist pipeline was in full swing in the recent election. You’re correct that the left has collapsed there. I do caution against over using electoral results as a measure of communist activities though, none of us believe in electoralism as a pathway to socialism so activity in the electoral system is more about recruitment, spreading socialist education and generally used as a sort of thermometer for the trend of things.
Oh I don’t doubt it. The thing is: The ilk I was referring to don’t do democratic socialism even when living in democracies. They may not boycott elections but they’re not really trying to win them, either, the motivation just isn’t there because they don’t believe it could achieve anything.
2/3rd of AfD voters don’t agree with the party platform. And not just in the “haven’t read it” sense but right-out “yeah I don’t like them this is a protest vote fuck all those Wessis in Berlin” type of deal. And the east being full of open Nazis isn’t exactly new, neither is them infiltrating civil society there the trouble is, and was, since the 90s, that the GDR had no civil society to speak of because politics was something the party did. What we see right now is a combination of protest voters having tried all other parties and are now left with the AfD (and still don’t get that if they want a party that shares their ideas, they should bloody fund one) and of the far-right getting bold (which will likely mean they’ll overplay their hand), all in enabling circumstances that have been in place for at least a decade. Oh, Russian disinfo whipping the conspiracy crowd right from “corona dictatorship” into “climate dictatorship”. We didn’t have that for long that’s relatively new.
The percentage of people with a closed right-extremist world view is actually larger in the west than in the east, yet election results are the exact opposite. Open Nazism is rarer in the west because Antifa, while not necessarily larger, has a way easier time drawing upon wider civil society so the Nazis keep their head down. There’s xenophobia and feelings of disenfranchisement in the east, the AfD plays into it, and if Wagenknecht ever gets around to actually founding her party she’ll scoop those votes straight up. “Unemployed before refugees” and “trans rights are human rights but fuck neopronouns” is by and large about as far as you need to go to calm those waters, a thing Die Linke never managed to do. Oh, and having selective expropriation of means of production in the programme won’t hurt. Going all-out would not be popular but targeted initiatives, completely different matter.
I don’t think it matters if 2 thirds of them don’t support the whole platform. What matters is simply that they supported them. It doesn’t matter that people here in Britain don’t support the whole platform of the tories, they still supported them on Brexit, enabling them to go ahead with the entire rest of their platform.
I’m not that familiar with Wagenknecht, is she what happens when the strasserite types of morons understand that nazis are bad but couldn’t explain to you why?
A good thing. Neopronouns are fine and good. People don’t understand them but that’s ok, eventually they will, assuming the right don’t manage to kill everyone first.
This was the landlords expropriation shit right? Did it ever actually get implemented or did it get snatched out from under the people through other means? I am betting on the latter.
Strasserite fuck no, she’s a card-carrying communist, always has been, joined Die Linke when it was still the SED. Masters in… philosophy, I guess, on Marx’ interpretation of Hegel. PhD in macroeconomics. If the GDR hadn’t fallen she’d probably sit in the central committee. Ceased to do Stalin apologia in the 90s, still does Russia apologia and has rather unhelpful Ukraine takes (“let’s just all stop shooting”, “ceasefire now”). Against a vaccine mandate but that only ever has been debated about in the abstract, anyway, definitely not a denier. Where she really breaks with the rest of Die Linke is the stuff I alluded to (with a bit of populist spin as she’d then also be bound to do it in her new party): The main beef she has with her party is over, as she puts it, Die Linke forgetting to advocate for the broad masses and instead fixating on (however justified) minority issues. See that as you will it’s certainly the exact perception people in the east have of the party.
I’m drawing the line at having a neutral pronoun anyone can use. I don’t mind one bit if some enthusiasts want to go all-out and have as many pronouns in a group as there are people but don’t expect me to keep track of all that I can barely remember names (faces and characters and histories, no issue, but names just don’t stick). It’s bad enough that Indo-European languages have gender-afflicted noun classes it’s a better idea to just get rid of them (or at least class distinctions between different groups of people1) than to explode the number of classes.
Or, to put it with Zizek: Why LGBTQ+ can’t we just all be +.
Oh no it went through. Berlin’s government is currently dragging its feet (CDU/SPD, both opposed the referendum) but they have to implement it.
1 Pun not intended but I’ll take it
This is the kind of stuff I’m alluding to. Maybe not strasserite, maybe nazbol-ey. Either way it’s not communist. There’s a significant segment of communists who have fallen rightwards through anti-idpol bollocks failing to understanding marxist intersectionality. They’ve mistakenly decided it all needs to be rejected for popular support rather than re-educating the population into recognising the intersectionality is a requirement for the broader masses to succeed, we simply don’t have the numbers otherwise in the new cosmopolitan societies that were constructed after nation-states ended and got built into the multicultural multi-racial cosmopolitan societies they are today.
I don’t think anyone wants you to keep tracks, just to acknowledge and respect it. It’s not really something that lgbt people came up with either, it has existed prior to the modern day and I’m willing to bet there’s at least one isolated group out there somewhere using some unusual shit. At the end of the day it’s just a way to describe their gender when “man” or “woman” doesn’t work for them. It’s pretty harmless and seems to particularly resonate with people that aren’t neurotypical so ehhhhhh it’s fine. Power to them really. I’m glad they’re happy. I don’t have neopronouns but it doesn’t affect me so you know.
I couldn’t care less what this socdem lib thinks. He was losing my attention with his rape obsession for years but he completely lost my attention when he started writing for the cia outlets like Radio Free. He’s not getting away with ignorance he knows what’s up.
When? Is there a timeline? If they’re dragging their feet they’re just looking for the circumstances necessary to drop it. When I saw this happen my immediate thought was “they’ll never ever implement that”. If they ever do I will be incredibly surprised.