• It’s still the problem. Information is widely available but misinformation is easier to find and the ones that need information are the ones that find the misinformation

    • Cyborganism
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      Not only that, but the good quality information is often blocked behind paywalls

  • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    Stupid, ignorant, misinformed, and gullible are all different things.

    Access to information helps with ignorance, and even then only if the ignorant person isn’t too dumb to understand or hear had their mind poisoned with falsehood.

  • @rozodru@lemmy.ca
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    dumb people still had access to bullshit information prior to the internet. remember grocery store tabloids? papers with “Bat Boy” on them or how Jesus was constantly coming back, etc? I knew a couple adults that firmly believed and bought that shit.

    • @hydropticOP
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      Sure, but before the internet somebody had to actually print a magazine or a book etc. to spread it wider than word-of-mouth

  • Armok: God of Blood
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    To the people saying that this is because of “laziness” or “lack of curiosity”:

    I’m bombarded with so much information every day that it’s not feasible to fact-check it all. I have to pick my battles and take things I care less about at face value until I have a reason not to.

  • @Num10ck@lemmy.world
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    i think actual information is way too difficult to suss out these days with the misinformation campaigns and the paywalls and the trolling, etc.

    shit try to do some comparison shopping today and try to figure out which reviews are real and if the thing you’re buying is really the thing you think you’re buying.

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      People don’t do their own research past the most cursory google searches at best of times, and now google is absolute garbage and the links that are relevant mostly go to massive SEO whale sites written by AI.

      That’s all before you get to the actual mainstream media sites that spout the same commercial news cycle stories, or spread sensationalized headlines and absolute nonsense. I have managed teams of people and on daily calls people talk about news stories they read like “Did you hear they found another spaceship on mars?” and “They found proof that covid was a Chinese bio-weapon!” and similar statements from working, middle-class people who just browse the websites and social media before work. Most people have very little time to dig into things they see, and now once-reputable sites are just cashing in on clickbait and lies.

      This is how most people get their news and information, and it’s absolute garbage now. Browse a major news site like MSN and it’s worse than grocery store tabloids from the 1980’s. And don’t even get started about social media like twitter and facebook.

      Something happened in the last couple decades that has made people literally just stop caring what’s real or not. I feel like it was an attitude deliberately seeded into our culture, and it’s now maturing as a society that has lost belief in everything and accepts anything.

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        Agreed: “I feel like it was an attitude deliberately seeded into our culture, and it’s now maturing as a society that has lost belief in everything and accepts anything.”

        That is the “feature” and the dead end… The full compliance on anything! No thoughts, no free speech!

    • @hydropticOP
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      Definitely doesn’t help, and modern machine learning models are only going to make this problem worse.

    • Dettweiler
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      Best case example I know of these days: try to shop for a mattress

    • That’s kind of the point.

      We now have access to the information, and we’ve discovered that all along it was our inability to distinguish between misinformation and real information that was causing the stupidity.

    • @Signtist@lemm.ee
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      Another issue is that information is easy enough to find that people don’t bother to remember things as much anymore, since they can just look up the majority of stuff on Wikipedia or something if they ever need to know it. It leads to people having a smaller pool of background knowledge, which makes them easier to mislead.

      • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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        I question whether or not this is true. People will remember things if they find them interesting, so incurious people didn’t know much in the past, either.

    • zelifcam
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      i think actual information is way too difficult to suss out these days with the misinformation campaigns and the paywalls and the trolling, etc.

      Sure, it’s awful. Yet a good amount of folks still seem to be able to figure things out. Well, mostly. At least position themselves in a way to think critically and make decisions best they can.

      • Citizen
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        But most people don’t know how bullshit smells in the first place… Check the downvotes…

  • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    Yes and no. If people had access to correct information, rather than every passing thought anyone has ever had ever, including complete fabrications and things that were never meant to be taken seriously, then they’d probably be okay.

    Even making a claim about what is true and factual seems to be a point to be argued on the internet lately.

    We’ve given everyone a voice and access to everyone else’s voice as well as access to all information. Most are lost in the noise, and can’t find the signal.

  • @menas@lemmy.wtf
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    We shall not confuse data and information. With internet we have access to a lot of data, but information is hard to find. Furthermore information are structured by the institution that made it : university, TV, newspaper, and social network Those dominant institution are not very interested in homelessness or other class struggle in your neighborhood. So relevant information for your social and geographical position is even more rare.

  • Kinda? I figured that there’s some portion of the population that’s not smart - bell-curve statistical distribution and all that. But I always thought that the problem was education, or rather, access to a good1 education and all the socio-economic and political boundaries around that.

    To be blunt: modest to insanely powerful people have something invested in keeping such barriers high, and it’s worrysome.

    1. Good = a program that teaches critical thinking and has access to liberal arts, trades, traditional arts, libraries, and information technology.
    • To be blunt: modest to insanely powerful people have something invested in keeping such barriers high, and it’s worrysome.

      cheaper workers tend to be less intelligent, ergo: prevent children from being expensive by preventing them becoming intelligent see:“a brave new world”

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    People here seem to be mistaking stupidity as a measure of intelligence. Stupidity is a measure of wisdom.

    An abundance of information doesn’t fix stupidity in the same way that shoveling water out of a boat with a leak won’t stop it from sinking.

    You have to address the leak before shoveling water becomes productive. Or to circle back around, you have to address how someone learns, parses, and applies information before feeding them more information becomes productive.

    • Citizen
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      Indeed! Understanding of information and how one applies that information…

  • Remember: IQ is on a bell curve, not a straight horizontal line. If everyone had at least an IQ of 100, we’d be living in a totally different world than what we’re living in right now, guaranteed. All more access to information has done is give the dangerously stupid people mroe things to misinterpret and misuse. It’s also given malicious people a way to access the stupid and the gullible to use them as tools for whatever bullshit they want to perpetrate on the world.

    • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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      Huh. IQ is normalized. 100 is always the mean no matter if the entire population got smarter. It’s impossible for everyone to have an IQ of at least 100.

      • @hydropticOP
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        Which part? By definition IQ follows a normal distribution and 100 is set as the mean/median – meaning that 100 is always the average result

        Edit: nevermind I did a stupid, you’re correct that it’s literally impossible for everybody to have IQ over 100

      • More than you’d think it is, I think. There are far more sub-100 IQ people being stupid about important things than there are people with an IQ above 100. I’m not even saying that someone with a high IQ can’t be gullible or can’t be fooled, but it’s less likely.

  • I truly believe it’s a lack of curiosity, people simply are not interested in learning more than they have to.

    That’s why I see curiosity as a gift. Friends think I am intelligent, but I’m simply curious enough to learn things.

  • @MonkderDritte@feddit.de
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    Cause is a mix of laziness and mental traps. Aside from targeted missinformation (which uses other mental traps).

  • MacN'Cheezus
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    We’ve had libraries since long before the Internet. I don’t think lack of access to information is as much to blame as lack of time and/or willingness to make an effort.

    Also, we live in a culture that celebrates, glorifies and rewards stupidity to an insane degree. There is simply very little incentive for people to try and improve themselves.