• jobby@lemmy.today
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    il y a 6 mois

    There’s no realistic alternative to voting for Biden.

    It’s either; make sure Trump loses, or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.

    (Edit: sorry for the rant)

    I think most of the ‘low information voters’ (this actually means ‘low intelligence’ but people are afraid to say that) who think Trump is ‘as good or better than the other guy’ are utterly deluded. Their basic lack of intelligence and education has shown this to be the case anyway.

    There is absolutely no excuse for voting for Trump unless you are utterly fucked in the head, or so cynical that you think you might make some Pugh money to survive once the US government implodes.

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      There is absolutely no excuse for voting for Trump unless you are utterly fucked in the head, or so cynical that you think you might make some Pugh money to survive once the US government implodes.

      Some people just want to watch the world burn.

      Disclaimer: I’m not American.

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      or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world

      Are you guys going to tell him?

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      […] or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.

      Ok…but I’m watching that occur right now under Biden anyway. Like, dems desperately need to stop moving to the right, the distinction that you’re trying to draw is becoming less and less meaningful with every lesser of two evils elected.

      We need a party that allows fighters to lead the way, not fascists and corporate lapdogs. The party politics need to change yesterday, it’s difficult for many voters to see that happening if neoliberalism isn’t kicked to the curb.

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        Biden is not, as a matter of fact, pushing the Dens rightwards. He is however being forced to make decisions against his nature purely through the machinations of the GOP and their puppet masters. Oh and don’t forget the Zionist lobby who are effectively the Nazis reborn into their victim’s skin.

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      il y a 6 mois

      The US does not represent democracy. And it is ever more clear it is not a democracy, but rather the illusion of one controlled by oligarchs and private interests. There is merely an illusion of choice.

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        I actually lo-key kinda agree with you, and think it’s ripe for all manner of improvements, but it’s still the best we have.

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          Other than all the places with more functional democracies.

          What America is a mediocre democracy with a shitload of money and a relatively large population, and that is what matters. There simply is no other singular nation that could stop, for example, China from conquering Japan.

          There are alliances that could, but the overreliance on American power has created an absolutely devastating implementation if America turns outright fascist itself, not even getting into what it means if the two largest nuclear nations become expansionist allies.

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            The US is indeed a mediocre democracy because of the corruptIon of the system that money has enabled.

            There are too many business loopholes and carve-outs to realise a fair society.

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              That corruption exists in most western democracies. The problem is the dogmatic worship for a 200+ years constitution. Temporary fixes won’t do. You guys need to come together and write a NEW modern and functional constitution.

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          In a one-party dictatorship you also get the option to vote or not vote in the single candidate.

          You guys really should wake up from that dream…

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            Keep going strong. You are not yet in a dictatorship but you will soon be. Good job, and vote Cthulhu, don’t choose the lesser evil.

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      What would you call people who won’t vote for Trump but refuse to vote for Biden too because Gaza?

      Edit: To be clear I agree with all the replies here

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          Well, same thing happens with Gaza, but also Ukraine loses. So take that, Biden.

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          But there are other choices than trump and biden!!1!! You can totally not support trump while not voting for biden!!

          No you can’t, you morons. It’s one or the other.

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        I’m not sure. Perhaps too driven by single-issue foreign policy to understand the wonder ramifications of potentially allowing Trump to win.

        The thing they need to understand is that right now a vote for Biden is not a mandate for HIM or necessarily all of the policies that he is forced to carry out (and I mean forced by both GOP shenanigans (immigration stuff) and global strategic positions (Israel)) its a vote to stop the US being turned (even further) into a right wing shithole.