• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    6 months ago

    Hey, you most likely weren’t raised vegan, too. I’d also argue that to oppose suffering, you have to give individuals (i.e./that is people) some sort of worth, but then most killing doesn’t check out.

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      6 months ago

      Naw, I know some people with negative worth who still shouldn’t be suffering. In fact, I’m pretty sure they’re suffering from their lack of worth. This is a matter of ethics, not value.

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        6 months ago

        Those might be suffering from lack of self-worth, but making difference between people’s worth opens up a can of ethical mold. Misanthropy is one thing, but the value of human life is untouchable.

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          6 months ago

          No, that attitude is simple evolutionary pressure to stay alive. The value of a human is no different from the value of a cow ethically, and I’ll eat cow. I don’t want either to suffer. Some people are economically far less valuable than cows.

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            5 months ago

            Cultural evolution > Social Darwinism

            Do you eat human? From a “farm”? Or shot “in the wild”?

            Right to exist is not touched by effort.

            Do you know what would reduce suffering for both cow and human?

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              5 months ago

              Nobody has a right to exist. You have to fight just like anything else.

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                5 months ago

                I really hope for your environment that you don’t actually believe or implement this.