Obama deported more illegal immigrants than George W Bush and Donald Trump combined. Biden deported more illegals in his first 18 months than Trump did during his entire term.
Democrats being “weak on immigration” is nothing more than a racist dog whistle to stir up GOP voters.
Nobody wants illegal immigrants pouring over the border. That being said, some of us are a lot more understanding about it than others, because there would be a lot fewer people trying to cross if the CIA didn’t spend the last 60 years deliberately destabilizing South American governments. Fortunately, that’s not how most illegals get here. Most of them just overstay their visa after it expires. Which means that most of the time, deporting illegals involved lots of boring paperwork and happens one person at a time. There’s no drama in it, so it doesn’t really make the news like immigrants at the border do.
Democrats understand that simple fact. Republicans don’t.
The deportation numbers are readily available on Wikipedia and official government websites. I tend to shy away from recommending news articles whenever there is an opportunity to go directly to the data itself. It takes a little more work but you avoid any potential spin or bias.
The reason people cross illegally is we don’t let refugees in legally.
The mass of innocent people, provides cover for the less than innocent. And they turn people into mules when they do cross, after charging them for it.
That’s not even getting into the rampant organ harvesting that’s happening to the people waiting to cross.
And like you said, Dems haven’t been doing the right thing for decades now.
How are we better than Republicans if we let this horrible shit happen just because the other team is worse?
Why not just run someone with some fucking empathy?
The US absolutely accepts refugees as well as migrants. They’re the majority of the people I see at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown. They’re afforded one year of free housing in a sanctuary city to allow them time to decide if they want to naturalize or move on to another nation.
Only if you ignore history and the fact the moderate wing of the Dem party is just very loud, very small, and very wealthy.
They’ve got money behind them for the same reason they don’t have voters behind them.
And they still have to cheat to win the primary, and voting for them because they’re not Republicans doesn’t fix anything.
The people paying both parties have already won by then.
Republicans support horrible shit because they think Dems are worse, Dems support horrible shit because they think (correctly) that they’ll be even worse…
We still end up with horrible shit. And that’s why on a busy election year, were lucky to crack 75% turnout most years 66%.
We’re leaving an insane amount of votes on the table, because the people running the DNC care more about money than votes. Then try to use the money to get votes.
The money is just a middle step we only need when we have an unpopular candidate. We can just fucking skip it, along with all the horrible shit Dem voters don’t even want.
But it’ll never change as long as at the end of the day we hold our noses, because why would they change when it keeps working?
Protests don’t work, because Biden and his admin refuse to listen to anyone under 60, despite most of them being hardcore trump supporters who would never vote D.
He’s running off the Dem base in the senile hopes republicans will vote D if Biden does some of the horrible shit trump did. Or even worse, he legitimately thinks these are good moves or what his voters want. There’s no good option for why he keeps doing this shit.
They’re never gonna vote D just because Biden acts more conservative though. Because trump is always going to take it further. Following him makes no logical sense except that’s where the donations are
Obama deported more illegal immigrants than George W Bush and Donald Trump combined. Biden deported more illegals in his first 18 months than Trump did during his entire term.
Democrats being “weak on immigration” is nothing more than a racist dog whistle to stir up GOP voters.
Nobody wants illegal immigrants pouring over the border. That being said, some of us are a lot more understanding about it than others, because there would be a lot fewer people trying to cross if the CIA didn’t spend the last 60 years deliberately destabilizing South American governments. Fortunately, that’s not how most illegals get here. Most of them just overstay their visa after it expires. Which means that most of the time, deporting illegals involved lots of boring paperwork and happens one person at a time. There’s no drama in it, so it doesn’t really make the news like immigrants at the border do.
Democrats understand that simple fact. Republicans don’t.
I want immigrants pouring over the border, cause fuck borders, borders are the illegal part of this whole equation.
It’s crazy that give commerce more rights to travel freely than we give living, breathing humans. Fuck borders.
Well you’re in luck, because America already lets in more immigrants than any other country on the planet.
If the best in the world isn’t good enough for you, I’m not sure what to tell you.
Which equation is that?
Do you have an easily digestible source so I can stick this in the face of conservatives with classic talking points?
The deportation numbers are readily available on Wikipedia and official government websites. I tend to shy away from recommending news articles whenever there is an opportunity to go directly to the data itself. It takes a little more work but you avoid any potential spin or bias.
The reason people cross illegally is we don’t let refugees in legally.
The mass of innocent people, provides cover for the less than innocent. And they turn people into mules when they do cross, after charging them for it.
That’s not even getting into the rampant organ harvesting that’s happening to the people waiting to cross.
And like you said, Dems haven’t been doing the right thing for decades now.
How are we better than Republicans if we let this horrible shit happen just because the other team is worse?
Why not just run someone with some fucking empathy?
Stop spreading false information
The US absolutely accepts refugees as well as migrants. They’re the majority of the people I see at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown. They’re afforded one year of free housing in a sanctuary city to allow them time to decide if they want to naturalize or move on to another nation.
https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/refugee-migrant-rights/
Because, unfortunately, that person will be seen as weak, and lose.
Only if you ignore history and the fact the moderate wing of the Dem party is just very loud, very small, and very wealthy.
They’ve got money behind them for the same reason they don’t have voters behind them.
And they still have to cheat to win the primary, and voting for them because they’re not Republicans doesn’t fix anything.
The people paying both parties have already won by then.
Republicans support horrible shit because they think Dems are worse, Dems support horrible shit because they think (correctly) that they’ll be even worse…
We still end up with horrible shit. And that’s why on a busy election year, were lucky to crack 75% turnout most years 66%.
We’re leaving an insane amount of votes on the table, because the people running the DNC care more about money than votes. Then try to use the money to get votes.
The money is just a middle step we only need when we have an unpopular candidate. We can just fucking skip it, along with all the horrible shit Dem voters don’t even want.
But it’ll never change as long as at the end of the day we hold our noses, because why would they change when it keeps working?
Protests don’t work, because Biden and his admin refuse to listen to anyone under 60, despite most of them being hardcore trump supporters who would never vote D.
He’s running off the Dem base in the senile hopes republicans will vote D if Biden does some of the horrible shit trump did. Or even worse, he legitimately thinks these are good moves or what his voters want. There’s no good option for why he keeps doing this shit.
They’re never gonna vote D just because Biden acts more conservative though. Because trump is always going to take it further. Following him makes no logical sense except that’s where the donations are