Hey mateys!

I made a post at /c/libertarianism about the abolition of IP. Maybe some of you will find it interesting.

Please answer in the other community so that all the knowledge is in one place and easier to discover.

  • PropaGandalf@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    This is the decision of the consumers. If we as a society do not want the big corporations to become too powerful, we should not give them any money. Most people will have to learn the hard way when their own ideas are sold cheaper elsewhere until they understand that it is better to support the original and the actual creator. But anything else is pure paternalism, which I cannot support. I am of course aware that there will always be people who will take advantage of this situation. But everyone must decide for themselves whether it is worth it. Otherwise, the product may no longer exist.

    As I said: In a free market, supply can be determined by demand. So if most people stopped ordering shit on amazon every day, we wouldn’t be where we are now. First of all, everyone can take a look at their own nose and not blame everything on daddy state. As if that would help you in any way.

    • stratoscaster@lemmy.zip
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      People already don’t do most of that stuff, what changes when there’s no IP?

      The free market is bullshit, it’s constantly manipulated by people looking to make money. The invisible hand is dead and long gone.

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      The one with more money will most likely win. They have better marketing, lawers, and ereryting else to outcompete every upcoming buissnes. The moment the small competetor has a real chnce they wave with enough money to make you quit. And why wouldn’t you? You work for moneyafter all. How can you determine the actuall demand if you don’t have the numbers with no way to get them?

      There is no free market and there has never been one.

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        1 year ago

        And that is exactly what is happening today. Do you think IP is not exploited by the big rich companies in such a way that it helps them? A small author won’t have the same opportunities as a big publisher, who will exploit him to the hilt. But the problem is that now the publisher gets the lion’s share of the licensing costs for the duration of the IP licence and the author can’t sell it anywhere else because he is bound.

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      Most people are exploited and can’t afford to make purchasing decisions on sentiment. And guess what? Your “free market” causes that quite directly. And blaming the actions of sociopathic CEOs on the consumers (who can’t actually afford a choice) will never change anything.

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      1 year ago

      So your answer will result in creators having to compete with people who dont create, but market better. This will discourage creators and the result will be less non corporate content will be created for us, everything will be bland crap made for mass consumption.

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      Most people will have to learn the hard way when their own ideas are sold cheaper elsewhere until they understand that it is better to support the original and the actual creator

      Or they won’t learn because the number of people who create the type of media that a corporation would want to steal is ultimately very few and those people can merely be talked over. There is absolutely no reason to believe that information is both available and timely.

      The current system we have is harmful to small creators. I release a lot of music under a pay-whatever model (almost all of it actually), but I would hate to be forced to do that. Five or ten years is reasonable, and there should be no such thing as “criminal” copyright infringement – it should be a tort only. I think that’s a fairly reasonable, even libertarian, compromise that doesn’t head too far into idealism. I really need to be paid for my work, y’see. Or paid for no reason, that’s fine too.

      • Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Personally, I think there should be a stronger separation between commercial, non-commercial, and personal use. Friends sharing/copying some media isn’t a big deal to me, but someone making copies and undercutting the original artist should be subject to some pretty strict consequences.

        I also think there should be some protections put in place to protect the actual content creators, because most people’s issue with copyright isn’t usually with the people actually creating things. The issue is corporations that insinuate themselves between the creators and consumers, funneling all the profits for themselves. It’s a pretty shitty system where artists make covers of their own albums so they can get a reasonable cut of the proceeds.