• hark@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. It’s like when people talk about “third world countries” as if they’re unlivable shitholes that couldn’t possibly have any positive aspects. Like you point out, there are many aspects to life that aren’t directly tied to politics and generally the day-to-day really isn’t that bad. It reeks of elitism and it’s alienating.

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      It reeks of elitism and it’s alienating.

      What aspect of recognizing Florida as a shithole with a fascist governor reeks of elitism?

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        1 year ago

        The part where Republicans are playing the victim about everything now, so if you insult them, You’re just an elite liberal

        /s if it wasn’t obvious

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          Or you didn’t even look at the objectively shitty things about it and only hate it because the mainstream media told you too (not fox the most mainstream of medias, the OTHER msms)

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          This particular chain of posts has nothing to do with republican vs democrat. The person I replied to said “Plus there’s hope that one day DeSantis will be gone and maybe a lot of those things will turn around.” Does that sound like a republican being happy about desantis to you? As for myself, I said dismissing entire places because of a few negative aspects (i.e. the republican rule there), even if major, is elitist because you’re ignoring the day-to-day that the person I was replying to mentioned that includes many positives.

          It’s not a liberal exclusive thing. Trump dismissed a bunch of “third world countries” as shitholes and that was actually who I was thinking of when I made my post. You just assumed I was talking exclusively about liberals because you treat politics as a sport with only two teams and that because I hit some key words in your mind, it made you assume a whole load of things about me and my post.

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            1 year ago

            Why not? Many republicans want trump gone because he makes it difficult to really hurt people and be greedy the way they want to

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        1 year ago

        The part where you ignore the rest of the state’s aspects, focusing on the worst parts only.

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          “Yeah, the rampant bigotry and misogyny isn’t so bad so long as you’re not trans, black, latino, or a woman!”

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            That’s not what I said at all. If you think that putting imaginary words in other people’s mouths is a valid form of argument, you’re just a basic trump-chode.

            Rampant bigotry and misogyny is not something that I have observed anywhere in the 21st century. When you interact with people in the real world, they are generally polite rather than bigots. Try going out into the real world sometime instead of believing everything you see on the Internet that’s pushed by rage-inducing algorithms to maximize engagement.

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        That people are turning their noses up at places where they don’t live and assuming that the presence of some bad aspects mean a place is entirely irredeemably bad. Like the person I replied to pointed out, there are day-to-day aspects that often don’t intersect with politics and there is some good to be had there, so condescending pitying is not always warranted. You missed the point by going back to focusing back on the bad parts and dismissing the entire place as a shithole because of them.

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          And you’re assuming that the negativity is all assumptions. Some of us have lived in these places and also agree they are overall shit holes. But that’s not to say that when people talk negatively about some place that they are implying that there are no positive aspects. There’s always a silver lining no matter how bad something is, but it is in no way elitist to focus on the overwhelming bad aspects and not mention the few positive aspects.