• stembolts@programming.dev
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    7 months ago

    I don’t get it. Well I do. But I’ve yet to have a satisfactory conservative response to the following :

    Intersex people exist. That is, at least 1 out of every 1,750 babies are born with both sexual organs. Therefore by their existence we know that there is a blurred line between genders and those people exist there. Even if I go along with them that transgender behavior is a mental illness (it’s not, this is just a thought experiment), what exactly do they propose we do about intersex individuals who are literally neither male nor female?

    1 out of 1,750 would put the intersex population in the United States at approximately 194,000 individuals. For reference, that would be about 10% of the population of Nebraska or Idaho. That’s how many people I am discussing and who seem to always be left out of the conversation.

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      7 months ago

      They just want yet another group to stick their boots into. The reasons don’t matter at all.

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        7 months ago

        Exactly. Being able to blame their problems on ‘other people’ is the basis of their identity.

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        Yeah, that is scary. Chosen by whom? I’d imagine if anyone reading this paused and thought, “If I was that baby, who would I want to make that choice?” I think everyone would pick themselves. Men reading this would wanna pick male and women reading this would wanna pick female.

        Anyway it’s fun to think about. But I’m done thinking.

        I’m really stoned and ranty. Bed time.

        Thanks for the chat!

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      They don’t actually care about “the children” or people in general and the concept of nuance is non-existent in their worldview.

      They literally don’t care how many folks are hurt by these laws. Ethics? They’ve never heard the word before. Its sad, scary and infuriating.

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      7 months ago

      Well do I have exactly the brand new 1h37min queer video essay for you!

      TL;DW: The modern concept of gender as separate from sex was not (originally) a progressive move. It was conservatives’ reaction to the medical discoveries of the nebulous nature of biological sex, to justify imposing the gender binary on trans people and especially intersex children.

      Conservatives claim to care a lot about protecting trans kids from “radical decisions”, but the places that enact legislation to prevent teenagers from using puberty blockers are the same places that still allow and encourage mutilating surgeries on intersex babies.
      It is not an accident. It is ideologically consistent with conservatives’ drive to impose their religious and cultural vision of the binary gender as a completely fixed universal truth, and they’ll use extreme violence to ensure it remains binary, fixed and universal.

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        7 months ago

        Or at the rate they’re going, as subhuman filth to be sent to extermination camps.

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      7 months ago

      You’ll never get one, because it’s not a logical position. It’s just hateful.