• kaffiene@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Mexico attacking the US is an invalid comparison. Palestine isn’t attacking Israel, Hamas is

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        6 months ago

        Exactly, it’s more like the cartels attacked the US and we in retaliation started bombing mexico out of existence while invading them and taking all of their land.

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          6 months ago

          You do understand Hamas, the same Hamas that attacked Israel, is effectively the government of the Gaza strip right? The Palestinian authority had no recognized authority there.

          So that’s also a “terrible metaphor” because “it would be like the government of Mexico was the drug cartels, the drug cartels (which are the government) attacked the US and we in retaliation started bombing Mexico out of existence.”

          There’s no perfect metaphor.

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      6 months ago

      Mexico attacked the US like Hamas attacked Israel

      Bad comparison. Mexico is an independent nation recognized by the UN. No nation disputes it’s sovereignty over it’s lands.

      Palestine is dependent on Israel. Israel controls the flow of people and goods from it’s borders. Israel controls electrical power to Palestine. Israel geographically surrounds Palestine.

      One actor holds all the cards here. One actor has the power to improve conditions in Gaza (people don’t generally choose to support violent militants for no reason) and chooses to bomb it.

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        No nation disputes it’s sovereignty over it’s lands.

        That’s not true, see Ukraine and plenty of other nations over history.

        Mexico is also the closest to “has a terrorist organization capable of carrying out an attack near the scale of 9-11 living right next door and running the government.”

        You’re right it isn’t even close because the US government would never let it get that close.

        Israel geographically surrounds Palestine.

        Neither the Gaza strip (where all the fighting is going on AFAIK) or the west bank are “geographically surrounded.” I checked a map because you legit made me question my geography.

        One actor has the power to improve conditions in Gaza

        I don’t think that’s entirely fair either. Israel can’t “fix” Palestine anymore than the US can fix the problems in Mexico … unless they take over Palestine. Nobody wants that…

        They could definitely do more to let aid in. They could definitely do better about not hitting civilian targets… But this is not a “just do nothing and everything will get better silly Israel” situation. I think that’s a pretty absurd take as popular it seems here.