Clemson University to ban TikTok on all campus networks effective Monday, July 10.

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        1 year ago

        Fake news. American government would never spy on its own citizens!!

        /s

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        There is no known western API access directly into your phones through any major social media company and if it were known it would get patched. I’ll take the American spyware over the CCP spyware any day of the week, thank you very much.

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    [we are doing it for the] “integrity of information and resources connected to the Clemson network”.

    They’re not doing it to censor or discourage use. They’re doing it because they don’t want the software running on their network alongside their network resources.

    You can still use tiktok, just not while connected to their network infrastructure.

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    The ban is on campus networks, but the reactions I’m reading are acting like this is a ban on the campus itself.

    It’s not censorship (or fascism), just like if they blocked PornHub it wouldn’t be censorship (or fascism).

    And no, blocking PornHub on a university campus where the vast, vast majority of connected users are 18+ isn’t justifiable unless it was under the grounds of security.

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    Lol how are they expecting to crack down on this if you can just use cell data.

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      I think this is more to discourage the use. Using cell data for video can add up quickly.

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      That is the point.

      People can use their own cell data to watch meme videos instead of hogging all the network bandwidth and slowing down wifi speeds for all the students who are trying to get actual schoolwork done.

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      They’re only going to enforce it on their networks, if you want to run it on your cell that’s up to you. I think the point is to discourage it overall. If every institution makes the hurdle to use it higher, that will stem the use of it on campus.

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          M8 one more time: it is not about stopping students from using tiktok, it is about preventing tiktok from being accessed on the school network. No one cares if you turn off wifi and go on tiktok, that is literally what they want you to do if you wish to access it.

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          I think you are seriously underestimating the laziness of your average college student, but that’s just my opinion.

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      I’m not following. Can you elaborate a bit on how a private university banning TikTok is fascism?

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        Clemson isn’t private, it’s public. It is certainly their prerogative to secure their network and their users’ data but there are definitely concerns over government censorship. I don’t think this issue is as black and white as people ITT are making it out to be and absent a larger policy stance that would van TikTok or it’s practices, I’m not sure this is the right move though I understand their position given the inaction of state and national legislatures in banning foreign spyware

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          They’re not banning their students from using tiktok, they’re blocking access to a website on their own networks. That is how network security works. I have many IP addresses block for many customers because some website shouldn’t be accessed on networks with PII. It’s really not that complicated.

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            I’m well aware - as a public university things are a bit different as they are agents of the state so this becomes a free speech issue. Also, if a university’s student internet is the same network containing PII systems like their student records, there are much bigger problems. That’s why I mentioned that this action without any legislation that would curtail Bytedance’s data collection presents a student rights conundrum. The app does not (as far as we are aware) inject or capture information from the users network but rather the user themselves which they have consented to. The larger issue is whether or not the US should allow foreign entities to collect this info and that’s not something the university should be able to decide but rather the state and federal regulatory agencies and legislatures

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            I never said that shortform content is bad or that tik tok should be banned. I just couldn’t care less about the app because it just doesn’t have anything in particular that interests me. If it did I would be using tik tok and not lemmy lol. The comment above just kinda rubbed me the wrong way i guess.

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      facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

      I think you’d be better off just saying censorship.

      Ultimately though we’ve never seen anything like this, the old school rules for what constitutes acceptable censorship might need some adjusting (especially as society learns more about what closed source algorithms made by hostile foreign powers used by the youth – and general population – of a nation can actually do to said nation).