• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    I haven’t seen things saying he’s good. I have seen it said, and said, that he’s better than expected. It’s just that the bar is too low. He might possibly be one of the better president, though not inspiring, just because there aren’t many good ones. FDR is good from what I know of him, though I’m sure there’s still plenty to complain about. Other than that, we haven’t really had any leftist president’s in the US. The fact that Biden has mostly been friendly towards unions is a nice change from standard US practice.

    Basically, he’s not great. He’s what we’ve got. He’s also better than it would seem like he would be if you paid attention to his political past.

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      He’s not been perfect by any means, and is seriously bungling the Gaza situation to put it mildly, but he’s absolutely been the best and most successful president in my lifetime so far, especially when it comes to making progressive steps.

      Note that that doesn’t mean he’s great, but yeah, the bar is just absurdly low

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        As a non-American, I think Obama was a bit better, but the difference is definitely pretty marginal

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          I would have liked to see Obama without being chained by the amount of Republicans voting against him that he had, but I wonder if it would have made any difference.

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          Obama was more charismatic and better at messaging, but I think actually worse on policy.

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          As a non-American who was in Finance before, during and after the 2008 Crash, lets just say that by the things he chose to do after the Crash, the way he chose to do them and even more importantly the people he chose to manage those things, even though he sings like a songbird, the quality of his actions definitelly didn’t match the beauty of his songs.

          Incredible orator.

          Also dishonest as fuck.

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      I haven’t seen things saying he’s good. I have seen it said, and said, that he’s better than expected. It’s just that the bar is too low.

      He only needs to be marginally better than the alternative, so that’s all the DNC will ever give us. Because giving us much better than the GOP might disrupt the donor money train.

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      6 months ago

      All fair points, it was just jarring to see the consensus shift from “both options suck shit” to “Biden will do I guess”

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      6 months ago

      Even with FDR, we had the whole concentration camps things. The bad with the good.

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      I tend to point out to people that those complaining about Biden tend to be unable to accurately back up the vast majority of their complaints. They also go oddly silent when someone comes back with a reasoned argument.

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      He’s also better than it would seem like he would be if you paid attention to his political past.

      This is what makes me think he’s just the voice for someone else. His history is far too shit for even the mild amount of good that has happened in this admin.