In addition to being pastors, my parents were both also professional teachers. My mom has a master's in education.
I still wish I wasn't homeschooled.
Like, I run into folks now who get super excit…
Who’s “y’all”? Religious fundamentalists? There are other people who homeschool. I did it for a while and now that my kids are back in school - they wouldn’t be if circumstances allowed - they are way ahead of their peers in terms of understanding the work they’re given.
And “smart enough” implies school is doing something special that children need, but it just isn’t. Kids want to learn. It is a remarkable feat that school is able to make them hate it.
And “cutting your children off from society” implies that school is somehow an integral part of society. It just isn’t. It is the factory-prison model of school that has helped to atomise society and make us dependent on states institutions like school for interpersonal connection. There are other, better ways of doing it.
EDIT: A lot of people here in a solarpunk instance quite happy to let the state mandate what and how their children are taught, apparently. It’s weird though, none of the people arguing with me seem to have a great grasp on reading comprehension. Almost like they weren’t taught good critical thinking skills.
EDIT 2: Just have a read of Chomsky’s take on education and democracy. It’s quite revealing: https://chomsky.info/20130601/
EDIT 3: Wait, I’m not even subscribed here. WTF is this sub? It’s locked and the only posts are from the mod, so it’s basically their personal soapbox they’ve branded as “texts from solarpunk”, and then they post shit like this that’s just basically hot-takes. FOH. Blocking this fucking place.
If you have something to say you can say it. This just reads like “the votes make it clear your opinion is unpopular and I can therefore be dismissive and get upvotes without any effort”. Another sterling advertisement for our education system.
Well I guess I’m just confused by your comment then. You said schools make kids not like learning and hate schools. You also said your kids were now back in school. So your kids hate school right? If schools are the cause of it then clearly they must have school now. Cuz otherwise if they don’t maybe your thesis is completely wrong.
So you’re saying they don’t hate school and they don’t hate learning? So schools are not a malignant entity that transforms the minds of students into hating school and learning. That’s what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up.
Okay, so you are definitely trying to misunderstand me. I’m not going to expect you to understand at this point, but if you think the sentiment that “school in general can make children hate the process of learning” means “every school always makes every child hate learning”, then maybe you weren’t very well taught how to reason and understand.
My kids are good at learning and they love it, and they’re able to manage through the school’s bullshit well enough that it’s not breaking their love of learning, and I am active in helping them maintain that love. They are among the relatively lucky.
I thought it was like a cliche that kids hate school, though. Have you… not encountered this concept?
Who’s “y’all”? Religious fundamentalists? There are other people who homeschool. I did it for a while and now that my kids are back in school - they wouldn’t be if circumstances allowed - they are way ahead of their peers in terms of understanding the work they’re given.
And “smart enough” implies school is doing something special that children need, but it just isn’t. Kids want to learn. It is a remarkable feat that school is able to make them hate it.
And “cutting your children off from society” implies that school is somehow an integral part of society. It just isn’t. It is the factory-prison model of school that has helped to atomise society and make us dependent on states institutions like school for interpersonal connection. There are other, better ways of doing it.
EDIT: A lot of people here in a solarpunk instance quite happy to let the state mandate what and how their children are taught, apparently. It’s weird though, none of the people arguing with me seem to have a great grasp on reading comprehension. Almost like they weren’t taught good critical thinking skills.
EDIT 2: Just have a read of Chomsky’s take on education and democracy. It’s quite revealing: https://chomsky.info/20130601/
EDIT 3: Wait, I’m not even subscribed here. WTF is this sub? It’s locked and the only posts are from the mod, so it’s basically their personal soapbox they’ve branded as “texts from solarpunk”, and then they post shit like this that’s just basically hot-takes. FOH. Blocking this fucking place.
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If you have something to say you can say it. This just reads like “the votes make it clear your opinion is unpopular and I can therefore be dismissive and get upvotes without any effort”. Another sterling advertisement for our education system.
No, ur dum if u downvotes ME.
You’re saying your kids hate school? They hate learning?
No. Are you trying to understand me, or are you trying to misunderstand me?
Well I guess I’m just confused by your comment then. You said schools make kids not like learning and hate schools. You also said your kids were now back in school. So your kids hate school right? If schools are the cause of it then clearly they must have school now. Cuz otherwise if they don’t maybe your thesis is completely wrong.
My kids love learning, they don’t really love school. Does that clear it up? Or are you, once again, just trying to misunderstand?
So you’re saying they don’t hate school and they don’t hate learning? So schools are not a malignant entity that transforms the minds of students into hating school and learning. That’s what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up.
Okay, so you are definitely trying to misunderstand me. I’m not going to expect you to understand at this point, but if you think the sentiment that “school in general can make children hate the process of learning” means “every school always makes every child hate learning”, then maybe you weren’t very well taught how to reason and understand.
My kids are good at learning and they love it, and they’re able to manage through the school’s bullshit well enough that it’s not breaking their love of learning, and I am active in helping them maintain that love. They are among the relatively lucky.
I thought it was like a cliche that kids hate school, though. Have you… not encountered this concept?
Not really, I encounter a lot of shitty parents though…
“Not really” what? Are you trying to be understood or not? You obviously haven’t been taught how to write clearly either.
Oh wait… are you a teacher? That would make so much sense.
Other people really can’t post here? Oops. That wasn’t intended. Thanks for letting me know.