• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The definition of sentience is really low, it’s basically the ability to have sensations and react. The most basic organisms can be argued to have that. The definition is not what I used for most of my life, which is higher intelligence.

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      7 months ago

      That technically is the definition of sentience, basically consciousness with the ability to react and have awareness of your surroundings. I think the word your looking for is sapience, which is the ability to contemplate and act productively using knowledge and reasoning

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        I think jumping spiders fit into the sapience category then. They’re known to learn different prey types and change their hunting strategies accordingly, even learning typical behaviour and being able to pick out sick/injured insects and figuring out they don’t need to go full stealth.

        They’ve even been observed to enter REM like dreaming states, where it’s assumed they process a lot of the visual information they picked up throughout the day.

        So basically every animal higher than the jumping spider might fit into the sapience category, which is kinda wild to think about

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          Jumping spiders also seem to be genuinely curious about things. Anytime I want to take a photo of one, it stops, looks at the camera, jumps on it to check it out, and then leaves. Kinda like I’d take a look at a new product on display on a supermarket shelf

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      7 months ago

      Higher intelligence is sapience. Whereas sentience means having a perspective and being aware.

      E: oops someone beat me to it

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      sentience
      noun

      1. The quality or state of being sentient; consciousness.
      2. Feeling as distinguished from perception or thought.
        3.The quality or state of being sentient; esp., the quality or state of having sensation.

      I think it is irresponsible wether these creatures are sentient or not. We never know when we’ll cut enough threads to make an ecosystem come undone.

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      7 months ago

      So a child isn’t sentient in your opinion? I’ve always understood sentience as the ability to have experiences, memories, and emotion (which is different from the paper’s definition, that was my layman definition).