• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    The incredible irony here is that there are so, so many death and black metal musicians that are genuinely better people than Gene Simmons could ever be. I would trust my kids (note: I do not have kids) around Cannibal Corpse and Cattle Decapitation. I would absolutely not trust Simmons around a teen daughter.

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      8 months ago

      Oh for sure, metal heads are for real wholesome ppl. Metal concerts are probably the lowest in some stupid peer pressure things or macho competitions (who can to the most x stuff, who has the most money, etc), and I absolutely know how many people react to someone needing some help. Maybe because we are a more diverse group related to age? Or because we are everywhere yet nowhere mainstream?

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        8 months ago

        I was the Metal Blade 25th anniversary show in Chicago–Cattle Decapitation with Goatwhore, Allegaeon, and Novembers Doom–and the lead of Goatwhore stopped the show to point out the guy that had his 10yo kid (with ear muffs!) at the edge of the pit, and told the crowd to be careful and friendly, because that kid was the future of the scene.

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        8 months ago

        Depends on. Some places of the metal community outdo gaming toxicity-wise, especially pre-2010s.

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          8 months ago

          Crazy, I’ve been to a couple hundred metal shows and never heard anyone say the N word. No one’s ever threatened to kill me or my family. Never heard anyone going around the crowed telling women to get the fuck back in the kitchen… like the fuck you mean?

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            8 months ago

            In my experience, the gatekeeping and unhealthy drinking habits are the most toxic aspects of it.

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            8 months ago

            I’m jealous of you, but maybe a lot of it comes from me being older, and some of those toxic elders either got reformed, or left the scene entirely.

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      7 months ago

      I would trust my kids (note: I do not have kids) around Cannibal Corpse

      Well, maybe not at Pat O’Brien’s house.

      If you left your kids with Cattle Decapitation you’d end up picking up a budding eco-terrorist which doesn’t sound half bad

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        7 months ago

        Fair point; it seems like he wasn’t storing his firearms safely.

        Hope he gets the help he needs. :(