Yesterday, Brian Dorsey was executed for a crime he committed in 2006. By all accounts, during his time in prison, he became remorseful for his actions and was a “model prisoner,” to the point that multiple corrections officers backed his petition for clemency.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/us/brian-dorsey-missouri-execution-tuesday/index.html

In general, the media is painting him as the victim of a justice system that fails to recognize rehabilitation. I find this idea disgusting. Brian Dorsey, in a drug-induced stupor, murdered the people who gave him shelter. He brutally ended the life of a woman and her husband, and (allegedly) sexually assaulted her corpse. There is an argument that he had ineffective legal representation, but that doesn’t negate the fact that he is guilty.

While I do believe that he could have been released or had his sentence converted to life in prison, and he could have potentially been a model citizen, this would have been a perversion of justice. Actions that someone takes after committing a barbaric act do not undo the damage that was done. Those two individuals are still dead, and he needed to face the ramifications for his actions.

Rehabilitation should not be an option for someone who committed crimes as depraved as he did. Quite frankly, a lethal injection was far less than what he deserved, given the horror he inflicted on others. If the punishment should fit the crime, then he was given far more leniency than was warranted.

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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    If you murder a murderer you’re not reducing the amount of murderers.

    But last time I talked to you you were advocating the poisoning of a puppy so at least you are consistent.

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      If you murder a murderer you’re not reducing the amount of murderers.

      If you kill two or more you are.

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                7 months ago

                Sorry to invoke Godwin’s law here, but are you telling me that during the Holocaust that the Jewish people weren’t murdered?

                Are you telling me Ukraine and Palestine civilians aren’t being killed?

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                  Depends. There were plenty of interpersonal killings of Jews during the early stages of the Holocaust that would easily count as murder. The state-sanctioned death camps were not murders, even if it’s also true that murders took place within the camps.

                  Are you telling me Ukraine and Palestine civilians aren’t being killed?

                  Of course not. Being killed is not being murdered. There are Ukrainians and Palestinians being both killed and murdered right now, but no western understanding of the word “murder” can accurately be applied to an active war front.

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      7 months ago

      Who said anything about murdering him? The state cannot commit murder. There’s an argument to be made that Dorsey did not deserve the death penalty (I don’t think he did), but this is a dangerously reductive view.

      But last time I talked to you you were misconstrueing my argument about society’s responsibility to preserve its safety, so I suppose you are too.

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          My guy if you want to hash it out in that thread again, go there, but to recap:

          An untrained, unfenced pit bull is a massive threat to both safety and property. The OP of that thread expressed legitimate concerns w/r/t both and was looking for advice on how to stop it. I gave two options, with emphasis that the most harm-reductive one be taken first. What exactly was your advice, again? That the OP spend several thousand dollars reinforcing their yard’s fencing to keep their neighbor’s pit out?

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        The state cannot commit murder.

        That’s a really bad line of reasoning.

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          How? Murder is interpersonal, premeditated manslaughter. There’s no interpersonal relationship between the state and an hypothetical victim. The state can kill unjustly (which I believe applies to Dorsey), but it cannot be guilty of murder.