i am curious to see what kinds of leftists are here on lemmy

  • masquenox@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I tend to fall on the anarchist side of things… though not fully - I think anarchists do have their own problems with orthodox “leftist” ways of thinking.

  • polymorphist_neuroid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I consider myself a progressive: our political systems should work to improve the human condition over the long term, informed by scientific and moral progress tempered by humility.

  • Asafum@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I honestly don’t know how to label myself, all I know is I’m “left of center” as far as the US goes. I might not even be a “true” leftist. I know I’m not a neoliberal though that’s for sure…

    I know that in general human nature leads the worst actors to positions of real power so I’ve never believed that the far end of the spectrum could ever work, but I also know for the same reason the “middle road” so-called centrist position in the US is just conservativism “lite.” I won’t even touch on the “right/conservativism” as that isn’t the question and it’s basically monarchy & hierarchy worship.

    I think people in general aren’t educated enough and are too apathetic to care about the “big picture” and mostly care about what happens in their own life in their own communities so decisions made in respect to what happens on a large scale for an entire country are left to manipulative actors swaying those that don’t care to truly understand any particular situation which makes any difficult process of transitioning to a more “leftist” government infinitely more dubious.

    I like the idea of worker co-ops as far as labor and “market” is concerned. I don’t believe that states can properly attend to the luxury desires of any given population, I think the “greed incentive” of individuals works there. People want a thing and you want money so you make the thing, but I believe governance has a role in ensuring those lead by the greed incentive are kept in check. That leads back to the “worst actors” seeking positions of power and that power is required to keep the greedy in check so I really don’t know the ideal way to handle that. The worker co-ops should keep the CEO wrecking a company long term for their short term gain and golden parachute exit out of the equation at least.

    As far as anything about equality goes, I think it’s stupid that it’s even a question. We are all humans living on a ball of rock shooting through the galaxy, we are in the same boat and deserve the same treatment/opportunities as anyone else. Those with a “leg up” monetarily have an “unfair” advantage, but the solution to leveling the playing field is far above my pay grade to know.

    I haven’t gone into any “deep dives” of the “flavors” of leftism which is probably why I don’t know what I am considered, but I’m not sure it matters either as I know to a degree what I believe works or doesn’t, I don’t think I need a lable.

    • Zstom6IP@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
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      1 year ago

      This is a very thoughtful comment, thank you. also i agree with much of what you said.

      • Asafum@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Thanks! I didn’t think I’d spend my lunch break considering leftism, but it was an interesting question lol

        • Zstom6IP@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
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          1 year ago

          i hope this community continues to interesting for you.

          edit, oops, I said “subreddit” instead of community, I guess its quite obvious that i am a reddit-exile.

      • doomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        My theory is sound. I just ran out of hope that we can do anything but brace for impact. This has affected how I go about acting and organizing, hence the self-applied “post” label. But I know what you mean.

  • eric5949@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I’ll be honest, don’t know how to answer that question but I’d like to be able to. I have a lot of the same beliefs as other people who say they’re leftist but sometimes the one or two conservative-ish viewpoints I have bring me into conflict with leftists. Not by my choice, just in my experience some people can’t deal if you aren’t 100% in lockstep with them.

      • Zstom6IP@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
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        1 year ago

        True that, but there’s a difference between debate and disagreement, and unhealthy infighting. and fighting with tankies is not infighting, because they are a threat to the values of the left.

        • FinnFooted@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Sorry, I was mostly being sarcastic.

          In all seriousness, a lot of people on the left think very critically about their beliefs and struggle with accepting others after becoming so thoroughly dedicated to their own. This is something we need to overcome for trivial things, for sure.

          But, as you said, tankies are a threat. They call for unity to simply to gather forces to oppress others until they can turn and oppress the same leftists they called to for unity.

  • jerry@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Kinda Juche without the great man stuff, agri-socialism I guess?