The fix is simple, just raise taxes! I pay enough in taxes, I pay for my fair share. I would rather end social security and have a private retirement account. Increasing my taxes, once again just shows what a scam it is.

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    9 months ago

    It would be people making over 168. The current cap is at 168k

    So yes, it would raise my taxes with a wealth distribution.

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      So you make above the cap? So you currently pay nothing?

      Are you planning to reject SS payments when you’re of age? I mean you didn’t pay in right?

      Are you saying that despite not previously having to pay a cent into into SS, and despite that you have access to SS benefits whether you pay or not, you consider it too much to bear to start paying anything?

      Again at best the argument is you’re selfish.

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        I put into SS. The amount I receive is capped but I pay more into the system then I’ll receive in a benefit.

        It’s selfish to say to keep my own money? That’s the opposite of selfish. It’s selfish to expect me to fund your retirement.

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          SS doesn’t fund people’s retirement like it’s an extravagant pension, it keeps the elderly out of poverty. Like you said the benefits scale so why refer to it like you’re personally cutting a check to send everyone in a cruise?

          You pay for roads you don’t drive on, I pay for schools for kids I don’t have, get over it. Selfishness isn’t a virtue.

          You are not rejecting the system making you a benefactor, by your own logic that ship has sailed. Congrats you’ve already contributed, and you’re not a slave and atlas has not shrugged.

          Right now you’re just making up reasons to be selfish… like you personally funding the nation’s retirements. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to feel good. It’s selfishness. Again, get over it.

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            I don’t see it selfish to keep my own money. That’s a weird view of being selfish

            Get over the desire to take money from other. It’s theft and the system isn’t sustainable. People should be personally responsible for their retirement.

            SS needs to be sunset and people need to save for their own retirement.

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              Do you have kids? If so then other people helped pay for their schools, if not then you’re already paying for other peoples’ kids school.

              Hell do you have insurance? Do you know how that works collectively?

              You are already paying for roads you’ll never drive but others can, firefighters you’ll likely never need but other will, etc etc. conversely you are able to drive from A to B because of financial input from people that may never drive the same road.

              You are already contributing to and benefitting from this “theft”you speak of. The difference seems to be that you take issue with knowing that you are helping other people. It can’t be the money, you are already benefitting from that and you’d have to be stupid to say you shouldn’t.

              It’s frankly kind of weird how much you are already benefitting from everything you call “theft,” it only seems to be an issue as soon as you’re asked to contribute your fair share.

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                I paid for their school. I wrote a check each month for their education.

                I contribute my fair share to social security. It’s asinine to think otherwise. My benefits don’t go up as I pay more. I just receive less for every dollar that is stolen from me.

                I’d rather eliminate social security.

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                  Didn’t think otherwise, just wanted to get to this part:

                  I’d rather eliminate social security.

                  You’d gladly use my tax dollars if it stopped your house from burning down, but you’d rather eliminate the single program keeping the nation’s elderly out of poverty than spend one tax dollar of yours. Certainly starting to sound like theft now.

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                    9 months ago

                    Oddly I pay taxes as well. So if me using my tax dollars to pay for the fire services. Unless you live by me, you’re not paying for my fire services

                    I’d rather each person paid for their own retirement. It’s not that complicated. Hopefully when Trump wins again, we can finally end this Ponzi scheme. The answer is not to keep raising the rate of taxes on me to pay for a failed program.

                    If they raise them again. I’ll just retire.