Dune is two love stories; Leto and Jessica, and Paul and Chani. Without Jessica’s betrayal of the Bene Gesserit because of her love for Leto there wouldn’t be a story. Or at least not this story.
is it a betrayal, or did she do exactly what was meant to happen and made it so the kwanzaa hashden was produced at exactly the right generation, that even the mothers superior didn’t see coming?
The book covered this. Jessica was supposed to have borne a daughter who would have been paired with Feyd Rautha to produce the Kwisatz Haderach. Paul was a wildcard who was outside the Bene Gesserit control - remember when the Reverend Mother was angry that Jessica was teaching Paul BG secrets? The BG had Lady Fenring seduce Feyd to maintain the bloodline in case they wanted to have another crack at it.
Spoiler: they did not want another crack at it by the time Leto II was done with them.
nah, dune sucks because it’s basically a feudalism simp and a story about space power plays. It’s basically game of thrones but in a space desert instead of a frozen wasteland.
the film kicks ass because it combines a kickass soundtrack with (mostly) cool visuals.
Though I remember Dune 1 being better on that front than Dune 2, the visuals and music seemed fresher and more varied; the sequel re-used too many things, and the tripping balls sequences did not go hard enough. I wanted to see Paul and his mum actually trip balls as the pierced the veil of time, not a few cutaways here and there.
TL;DR : treat it like nightmare before christmas or something, check it out as an audiovisual experience.
EDIT : the jihad references are before the increase in islamic terrorism, Frank Herbert just based a lot of the stuff off arabian culture because he wanted it to match the desert feel. Jihad just means struggle.
Uh you know that Dune is 40 years older than GoT right? And Hebert is explicit about the use of Middle Eastern culture because the whole spice thing is a metaphor for oil right?
And Hebert is explicit about the use of Middle Eastern culture because the whole spice thing is a metaphor for oil right?
ok, I’m trying to make the other guy not be intimidated.
Uh you know that Dune is 40 years older than GoT right?
Meh? I know it’s from the 50s, IDK when GOT was made, and I don’t care. I’m trying to put a comparison to something else. Nightmare Before Christmas was made after both the GOT books and Dune too, but it still serves to explain what the film is like to me.
🎵What do you get when you drown a worm?
You get enough spice to make a Kwisatz .🎶
🎶 But is it enough to be last batch
I-I-I don’t want run outta spi-i-ice
I don’t want to lose the spice🎵
Ah yes, romance, the biggest part of Dune plots
Dune is two love stories; Leto and Jessica, and Paul and Chani. Without Jessica’s betrayal of the Bene Gesserit because of her love for Leto there wouldn’t be a story. Or at least not this story.
3 love stories. The third is between a worm and his spice.
Four? Dr. Yueh’s live for his wife produced the betrayal of the Atreides.
But I stan the Worm/Spice ship.
Fifth. Later in the novels you have ghola Duncan’s weird, kinky love/hate relationship with Murbella.
is it a betrayal, or did she do exactly what was meant to happen and made it so the kwanzaa hashden was produced at exactly the right generation, that even the mothers superior didn’t see coming?
The book covered this. Jessica was supposed to have borne a daughter who would have been paired with Feyd Rautha to produce the Kwisatz Haderach. Paul was a wildcard who was outside the Bene Gesserit control - remember when the Reverend Mother was angry that Jessica was teaching Paul BG secrets? The BG had Lady Fenring seduce Feyd to maintain the bloodline in case they wanted to have another crack at it.
Spoiler: they did not want another crack at it by the time Leto II was done with them.
Right, but I’m saying that Leto 2 (or 3) is the kaketown homeboy because he saw the golden path , turned into a worm and ruled for a bajillennium.
Edit: and the Benelux confederation suck because they didn’t realise this.
I’m pretty sure there can be more than one, in the books it talks about how others tried too. Sounded like the Bene Tleilax had at least one.
that’s a good point
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lol i assume autocorrect fail?
Nope, I made a joke on purpose because I didn’t want to look up how to spell kornfed hashbrowns. It’s a made up word.
All words are made up.
🍁🚬☁️☁️☁️
Hearing all these weird words and jihad references since the film was released has considerably curbed my enthusiasm about seeing it.
nah, dune sucks because it’s basically a feudalism simp and a story about space power plays. It’s basically game of thrones but in a space desert instead of a frozen wasteland.
the film kicks ass because it combines a kickass soundtrack with (mostly) cool visuals.
Though I remember Dune 1 being better on that front than Dune 2, the visuals and music seemed fresher and more varied; the sequel re-used too many things, and the tripping balls sequences did not go hard enough. I wanted to see Paul and his mum actually trip balls as the pierced the veil of time, not a few cutaways here and there.
TL;DR : treat it like nightmare before christmas or something, check it out as an audiovisual experience.
EDIT : the jihad references are before the increase in islamic terrorism, Frank Herbert just based a lot of the stuff off arabian culture because he wanted it to match the desert feel. Jihad just means struggle.
Uh you know that Dune is 40 years older than GoT right? And Hebert is explicit about the use of Middle Eastern culture because the whole spice thing is a metaphor for oil right?
ok, I’m trying to make the other guy not be intimidated.
Meh? I know it’s from the 50s, IDK when GOT was made, and I don’t care. I’m trying to put a comparison to something else. Nightmare Before Christmas was made after both the GOT books and Dune too, but it still serves to explain what the film is like to me.
Kwisatz Bacharach
🎵What do you get when you drown a worm? You get enough spice to make a Kwisatz .🎶 🎶 But is it enough to be last batch I-I-I don’t want run outta spi-i-ice I don’t want to lose the spice🎵