at the time, countries like France, Italy, Czechia, Austria, the Netherlands, Greece, and others had the same level or higher anti-EU sentiment
I would very much doubt that, seeing as I’ve never heard of any significant leave campaign in any of these countries let alone any actual legislative move to do so.
Are you serious? You’ve never heard of, for example, France’s national front party, who was the their largest party in the EU parliament, headed by Marine Le Pen, and wanted to leave the EU?
Eurosceptic movements were huge all across the union, particularly after the refugee crisis. It’s only after Brexit that these movements have fizzled out.
I’m not saying that there aren’t other eurosceptic, I just don’t agree that they were at “the same level or higher” than in the UK.
As far as I’m aware, France has not left the EU indicating to me that euroscepticism in France has in fact never reached the same level as in the UK.
As I stated, the UK ended up being the only one to leave because the others didn’t hold referendums.
Your assertion that the UK being the only country to leave means it’s the only country that was very Eurosceptic is deeply flawed.
If every country in the EU had held a referendum in 2016, more would’ve left. The UK wasn’t unique in its views on the EU.
Cameron called for the referendum in an attempt to stamp out UKIP, who were weaponising the UK’s stupid FPTP voting system. He reasoned that by calling a referendum and winning, UKIP support would collapse, those right wing voters would go back to voting Conservative, the right wing vote wouldn’t be split, and they’d be able to stave off Labour, who wouldn’t benefit from a splintered right wing vote.
I mean, it was a cheap throwaway comment but since personal impressions are apparently the most important discussion point today:
My personal opinion is that the very fact that the UK had a referendum and did leave makes their Euroscepticism more real than bad polling results the EU may have had in other countries where that did not happen.
Just because you haven’t heard about it, doesn’t mean it’s not the case, jeez pull your head out your arse. France had a leave referendum too, and the majority voted leave, but they had politicians who were smart enough to ignore the results.
Why, thank you for your polite way of providing missing information to others.
You certainly make participating in this community an enjoyable experience.
And their disposition is counter to the experience you provide with posts derived from your ignorance and myopic assumptions? Is it really enjoyable to see misinformed posts all day long?
their disposition is counter to the experience you provide
I had inferred that from the post I replied to stating something that I had a different impression of.
It’s almost as if that was the very reason to reply in the first place.
ignorance and myopic assumptions? Is it really enjoyable
To be derided for minor disagreements?
I suppose it must be. Otherwise the level of discourse here could be considered somewhat unfriendly
I would very much doubt that, seeing as I’ve never heard of any significant leave campaign in any of these countries let alone any actual legislative move to do so.
Are you serious? You’ve never heard of, for example, France’s national front party, who was the their largest party in the EU parliament, headed by Marine Le Pen, and wanted to leave the EU?
Eurosceptic movements were huge all across the union, particularly after the refugee crisis. It’s only after Brexit that these movements have fizzled out.
I’m not saying that there aren’t other eurosceptic, I just don’t agree that they were at “the same level or higher” than in the UK.
As far as I’m aware, France has not left the EU indicating to me that euroscepticism in France has in fact never reached the same level as in the UK.
As I stated, the UK ended up being the only one to leave because the others didn’t hold referendums.
Your assertion that the UK being the only country to leave means it’s the only country that was very Eurosceptic is deeply flawed.
If every country in the EU had held a referendum in 2016, more would’ve left. The UK wasn’t unique in its views on the EU.
Cameron called for the referendum in an attempt to stamp out UKIP, who were weaponising the UK’s stupid FPTP voting system. He reasoned that by calling a referendum and winning, UKIP support would collapse, those right wing voters would go back to voting Conservative, the right wing vote wouldn’t be split, and they’d be able to stave off Labour, who wouldn’t benefit from a splintered right wing vote.
I mean, it was a cheap throwaway comment but since personal impressions are apparently the most important discussion point today:
My personal opinion is that the very fact that the UK had a referendum and did leave makes their Euroscepticism more real than bad polling results the EU may have had in other countries where that did not happen.
Euroscepticism is still Euroscepticism, regardless of whether there was a referendum or not.
You should spend more time reading, and less time writing nonsense
Just because you haven’t heard about it, doesn’t mean it’s not the case, jeez pull your head out your arse. France had a leave referendum too, and the majority voted leave, but they had politicians who were smart enough to ignore the results.
Why, thank you for your polite way of providing missing information to others.
You certainly make participating in this community an enjoyable experience.
And their disposition is counter to the experience you provide with posts derived from your ignorance and myopic assumptions? Is it really enjoyable to see misinformed posts all day long?
I had inferred that from the post I replied to stating something that I had a different impression of. It’s almost as if that was the very reason to reply in the first place.
To be derided for minor disagreements?
I suppose it must be. Otherwise the level of discourse here could be considered somewhat unfriendly