How are we even supposed to know what’s right anymore? Am I supposed to vote for the solar or the nuclear fanatics? I just wanna save the fucking climate, what should I do?
Edit: I’m sorry if this isn’t phrased clearly, but what I mean to say is “solar fanatics or nuclear fanatics”, implying that I feel right in the middle between the to and just want to make the right choice. People are arguing loudly from both sides.
Nuclear, preferably fusion works out and energy becomes a non-issue. But nothing else we have can beat the reliability, energy density and power-to-emissions ratio of nuclear.
I’m very sick of hearing about nuclear from Reddit/lemmy. If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it. But it’s not. It just seems like it is to the layman.
There’s a reason the market and governments went all in on renewables and it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents. Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.
The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.
If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it.
No, if it wasn’t lobbied against and fearmongered by oil and coal, public sentiment would support it and funding would go along with it. If you think it’s cheaper to throw massive solar panels into every open field and that we’d get anywhere approaching the energy a nuclear power plant could produce then you’ve lost the plot.
it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents.
Yes it is.
Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive,
The energy output offsets the cost faster than alternatives and if we started ten years ago we’d have them by now. Not starting right now because you think it’s too late is the reason they weren’t built a decade ago. Some kind of fuckin reverse sunk cost fallacy with you people. Also, ten years minimum? Some have been built in three years.
The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.
Dumbest shit you’ve said in this post so I’m glad you left it till last. Since 1971 Nuclear Power is estimated to have prevented 64 trillion gigatons of carbon emissions. To put it into perspective, that’s the amount the United States would generate if we powered ourselves completely with coal for 35 years. The positive climate impact of nuclear is so incomprehensibly superior to renewables that your stance against it isn’t just stupid - it’s costing lives.
It’s hilarious how utterly delusional you are lol. Yeah you go ahead and keep telling yourself that an oil industry conspiracy is pushing renewables over nuclear and not the fundamental economics of the situation. Nuclear isn’t and never will be a realistic solution to climate change.
Also— your own article states that the fastest nuclear reactors were built in Japan. Well guess what, that’s bizarr because Japan skirted all kinds of safety practices to build their reactors and that’s how you get garbage plants like Fukushima. All of the new reactors getting built now are planned for ten years or more, which your article also confirms.
And no, you are blatantly wrong that only paranoia is getting in the way of nuclear. Countries aren’t building nuclear because it makes no fucking sense when you can generate the same amount of power for far cheaper with renewables. Renewables are also serving as the baseline power source all around the world and they do the job just fine. Nuclear isn’t needed.
It’s obvious you’re just another rude, know-it-all douchebag who is actually far more ignorant on this topic than you realize. Straight to my blocked list.
Well, the ‘nuclear fanatics’ are probably the best bet for actually saving the climate. The energy to waste ratio makes renewable energy look like a squirt gun compared to a fire hose. Even including the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl and Fukushima, renewable energy is more dangerous to human life.
If you care to learn in video format, Kyle Hill has done an invaluable service illustrating very important things about nuclear energy.
Well, the ‘nuclear fanatics’ are probably the best bet for actually saving the climate.
Are you volunteering your basement as storage location for nuclear waste? It’s funny how the biggest nuclear proponents are usually the ones who scream the loudest when their region is target for a geological survey for a possible storage location.
Are you volunteering your basement as storage location for nuclear waste?
Yes, absolutely. Kyle hill has many videos. One where he’s kissing a barrel of nuclear waste. You have a very outdated idea of what modern nuclear energy is and I highly suggest actually clicking the link I provided.
It’s funny how the people who rally the hardest against nuclear have no fucking idea what it is beyond the disasters.
The politicians who are owned by fossil fuel companies?
One person writing to their politician isn’t worth the trash can space the letter will end up in. We need to have a majority of people supporting smart energy decisions, and that starts with telling people that their opinions on nuclear energy are 50 years out of date.
“Come on guys, solar panels don’t make that much waste. Besides, it’s renewable!”
“Nuclear Fission is dangerous, we shouldn’t make more power plants, invest in things like solar!”
Don’t mind me, just waving my tiny “I was right” flag as we drown in our own hubris.
How are we even supposed to know what’s right anymore? Am I supposed to vote for the solar or the nuclear fanatics? I just wanna save the fucking climate, what should I do?
Edit: I’m sorry if this isn’t phrased clearly, but what I mean to say is “solar fanatics or nuclear fanatics”, implying that I feel right in the middle between the to and just want to make the right choice. People are arguing loudly from both sides.
Nuclear, preferably fusion works out and energy becomes a non-issue. But nothing else we have can beat the reliability, energy density and power-to-emissions ratio of nuclear.
I’m very sick of hearing about nuclear from Reddit/lemmy. If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it. But it’s not. It just seems like it is to the layman.
There’s a reason the market and governments went all in on renewables and it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents. Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.
The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.
No, if it wasn’t lobbied against and fearmongered by oil and coal, public sentiment would support it and funding would go along with it. If you think it’s cheaper to throw massive solar panels into every open field and that we’d get anywhere approaching the energy a nuclear power plant could produce then you’ve lost the plot.
Yes it is.
The energy output offsets the cost faster than alternatives and if we started ten years ago we’d have them by now. Not starting right now because you think it’s too late is the reason they weren’t built a decade ago. Some kind of fuckin reverse sunk cost fallacy with you people. Also, ten years minimum? Some have been built in three years.
Dumbest shit you’ve said in this post so I’m glad you left it till last. Since 1971 Nuclear Power is estimated to have prevented 64 trillion gigatons of carbon emissions. To put it into perspective, that’s the amount the United States would generate if we powered ourselves completely with coal for 35 years. The positive climate impact of nuclear is so incomprehensibly superior to renewables that your stance against it isn’t just stupid - it’s costing lives.
It’s hilarious how utterly delusional you are lol. Yeah you go ahead and keep telling yourself that an oil industry conspiracy is pushing renewables over nuclear and not the fundamental economics of the situation. Nuclear isn’t and never will be a realistic solution to climate change.
Also— your own article states that the fastest nuclear reactors were built in Japan. Well guess what, that’s bizarr because Japan skirted all kinds of safety practices to build their reactors and that’s how you get garbage plants like Fukushima. All of the new reactors getting built now are planned for ten years or more, which your article also confirms.
And no, you are blatantly wrong that only paranoia is getting in the way of nuclear. Countries aren’t building nuclear because it makes no fucking sense when you can generate the same amount of power for far cheaper with renewables. Renewables are also serving as the baseline power source all around the world and they do the job just fine. Nuclear isn’t needed.
It’s obvious you’re just another rude, know-it-all douchebag who is actually far more ignorant on this topic than you realize. Straight to my blocked list.
I’ve long since lost patience with idiots, especially ones that resort to blocking when they’re wrong. Take care o/
Well, the ‘nuclear fanatics’ are probably the best bet for actually saving the climate. The energy to waste ratio makes renewable energy look like a squirt gun compared to a fire hose. Even including the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl and Fukushima, renewable energy is more dangerous to human life.
If you care to learn in video format, Kyle Hill has done an invaluable service illustrating very important things about nuclear energy.
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Are you volunteering your basement as storage location for nuclear waste? It’s funny how the biggest nuclear proponents are usually the ones who scream the loudest when their region is target for a geological survey for a possible storage location.
Yes, absolutely. Kyle hill has many videos. One where he’s kissing a barrel of nuclear waste. You have a very outdated idea of what modern nuclear energy is and I highly suggest actually clicking the link I provided.
It’s funny how the people who rally the hardest against nuclear have no fucking idea what it is beyond the disasters.
Then go to your politicians and do. Talk is cheap.
I can’t literally put them in my basement, Fred. They’re in my state already and I support them existing. What do you want from me?
Apparently you’re the minority. That’s good.
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The politicians who are owned by fossil fuel companies?
One person writing to their politician isn’t worth the trash can space the letter will end up in. We need to have a majority of people supporting smart energy decisions, and that starts with telling people that their opinions on nuclear energy are 50 years out of date.
Always vote for the futuristic sci Fi energy sources
Issue is that it is the most accessible form of hone electric generation