The UN Security Council fails to pass a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza on the same day Israel's Prime Minister vowed to send troops into Rafah without US support if necessary.
The United Nations Security Council has failed to pass a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza as part of a hostage deal after Russia and China, who are permanent members, voted against the measure proposed by the United States.
It’s literally the first paragraph of the article.
Biden, through the US delegation, proposed this resolution, which Putin and Xi, through their delegations, vetoed. They’re literally on opposite sides of the issue.
I was explaining how they’re the same. You know, for someone who likes explaining the obvious, you really did miss out on this obvious point being made, twice.
Did you reply to the wrong post? I was explaining how the US could be seen as the same as China and Russia on this issue because they’re taking turns vetoing each other’s resolutions. The original post was talking about Biden. I didn’t say anything about anyone having grounds to veto. It’d help to follow along the conversation before jumping into the middle of it.
They’re not the same: which horse does either Russia or China have in the race?
US vetoed resolutions that were unfair to Israel or simply that Israel wouldn’t accept. You may not like this support of Israel but it it’s there
Russia and China do not have an interest in either side. They do not strongly support either. They do not care about either, and they certainly do not care about human rights. This is just to say “ha ha, US didn’t get this done”, and so patsies online can say “derp, both same”
Unfair to israel? We really shouldn’t care about israel’s feelings when they’re committing outright genocide. You may not like the idea of the US being as bad as China or Russia, but in this case the US is actually worse since it’s actively supporting and funding this genocide. Throwing together a different resolution that gives israel leeway to continue their genocide but slightly altered is just to say “look, we tried” and so patsies online can say “derp, US are the good guys”
Not what I said. Regardless of any of our opinions onions this is not happening unless both sides agree, including Israel. Again, regardless of our opinions, US support of Israel makes it more likely to get at least them to agree.
There’s no “both sides the same”, since China and Russia don’t have a resort, they’re likely doing it for spite. Again, regardless of our opinion, US supports a side and hopefully has influence for the side, and Russia/China don’t, just want to stir up shit
It’s literally the first paragraph of the article.
Yes, so now ceasefire resolutions have been vetoed by Biden, Putin, and Xi. Good company.
Biden, through the US delegation, proposed this resolution, which Putin and Xi, through their delegations, vetoed. They’re literally on opposite sides of the issue.
The US was vetoing ceasefire resolutions before this.
And now it’s Russia and China vetoing the US resolution calling for a ceasefire, hence the article.
I was explaining how they’re the same. You know, for someone who likes explaining the obvious, you really did miss out on this obvious point being made, twice.
So because the US vetoed a measure earlier, them proposing a ceasefire now is grounds for Russia/China to veto?
You sound like someone who thinks “no u” is a strong argument.
They vetoing it because the US proposed a conditional ceasefire while Russia and China want an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
Did you reply to the wrong post? I was explaining how the US could be seen as the same as China and Russia on this issue because they’re taking turns vetoing each other’s resolutions. The original post was talking about Biden. I didn’t say anything about anyone having grounds to veto. It’d help to follow along the conversation before jumping into the middle of it.
They’re not the same: which horse does either Russia or China have in the race?
US vetoed resolutions that were unfair to Israel or simply that Israel wouldn’t accept. You may not like this support of Israel but it it’s there
Russia and China do not have an interest in either side. They do not strongly support either. They do not care about either, and they certainly do not care about human rights. This is just to say “ha ha, US didn’t get this done”, and so patsies online can say “derp, both same”
Unfair to israel? We really shouldn’t care about israel’s feelings when they’re committing outright genocide. You may not like the idea of the US being as bad as China or Russia, but in this case the US is actually worse since it’s actively supporting and funding this genocide. Throwing together a different resolution that gives israel leeway to continue their genocide but slightly altered is just to say “look, we tried” and so patsies online can say “derp, US are the good guys”
Not what I said. Regardless of any of our opinions onions this is not happening unless both sides agree, including Israel. Again, regardless of our opinions, US support of Israel makes it more likely to get at least them to agree.
There’s no “both sides the same”, since China and Russia don’t have a resort, they’re likely doing it for spite. Again, regardless of our opinion, US supports a side and hopefully has influence for the side, and Russia/China don’t, just want to stir up shit