• spiphy@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      It is. I do wonder if a good portion of the sound transit board is secretly opposed to public transit. Why is the light rail not a flat fair? Why is the monthly pass such a train wreck? Honestly the whole system should be one flat fair?

      Personal antidote. I had a easier time buying a day pass for Paris’ metro (I don’t speak French) than I did buying a day pass in Seattle.

      • SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        No one I know has bought a pass to use it.I did move away a year ago but it seemed like they never checked during that time because they just wanted people to use it

    • chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      1 year ago

      1. I got a light, gentle, loving rail and it was quite nice (obligatory 196 horny comment)

      2. For cities I really like the light rail, metro service. No fixed times, but regular enough that it can be relied on to commute is perfect for encouraging mode shift from car use, and using majority line of sight rather than signalling makes things much cheaper. God I love trams.

  • qwop@programming.dev
    4·
    1 year ago

    It’s difficult to build a high speed railway without making it go through some green space, so environmentalists won’t always be happy :P

  • ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social
    21·
    1 year ago

    Metro rail has its place, particularly in large metropolitan areas. $20 to go from San Diego to Oceanside with AC outlets yet without I-5 traffic is superb. I’m a fan of the WMATA Metro (DC area) as well.

    For an inter-city high-speed offering, I’m fairly skeptical. We have Amtrak and compared to air travel it costs just as much yet takes several times as long to move me across the country. It would have to be a high-volume route with a proven market for me to support it.

    • Tnaeriv
      8·
      1 year ago

      That’s because American rail transport is fundamentally broken, not because rail in general is broken

    • Mr_Will@kbin.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      Try looking at somewhere that does have high-speed rail, rather than only considering Amtrak’s broken offering.

      As an example; consider the journey from Paris to Nice. It’s a 580 mile drive taking ~9 hours, a 1.5 hour flight costing £129 or a 5.5 hour train ride costing £71.

      Once you include the hassle and time required for airport security, the gap between the train and plane closes significantly. 1.5 hours flying plus 2 hours at the airport before takeoff and another half hour after landing takes it up to 4 hours already, rather than the train where you can just walk into the station and get on. Then there’s the comfort and facilities on-board. A cramped economy flight Vs a comfortable train with leg room, space to move around, charging plugs, etc.

      When you look at it like this, is it worth spending nearly twice as much for a slightly faster but less comfortable journey? High speed trains excel over middle-distance journeys, too long to comfortably drive but too short for flying to really make sense. Imagine a train that would take you from the San Diego to the centre of San Fransisco in less than 5 hours, running 10+ times per day and costing less than flying. That’s the reality of high speed rail in many countries. Can you really not see a market for it in the USA?

    • PugJesus@kbin.social
      4·
      1 year ago

      There is no market because passenger rail is inefficient.

      Because rail has no market, there’s no incentive to make passenger rail more efficient.

      The circle of American transport since the 60s.

      • spiphy@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 year ago

        I hate when people argue against mass/public transit by stating the current issue with it. My father in law does this anytime our conversation get to public transit. He tells me about the one time he thought about taking the bus in his extremely small town and the trip would have taken twice as long. It is painful that people think pointing out the problem advocates are trying to solve is somehow and argument against fixing the problem.