• Qantifanon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    53
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Reddit is completely astroturfed now. Nothing but bots and humans that act like bots.

    • Korkki@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      it’s not just that reddit turned into a huge greedy corpo-clusterfuck when they went public, it was kinda bad before that too and held bad practices. Lemmy has a lot of the same features that made reddit shit on a fundamental level.

      The up-vote downvote system itself is a both a curse and blessing. it’s sorts things decently but it encourages mediocrity and bot like behaviour in people, if one likes to put it that way. It makes discussing anything controversial and where the issue isn’t black or white, impossible. Good for cat pics and tits, but really bad for politics and the like, because everything eventually floats towards some status quo and everybody and everything else is sidelined and encouraged to shut up or go with the flow or face downvote barrage.

      Also the bots are here, not yet, but they will be. Bots are easy to make here too. If this place ever gets even decently popular this place will get astroturfed and up-vote manipulated just like reddit. it’s too easy to manipulated community opinion or shill for issues or things in site like this. Federated structure might help or make it worse.

      • Paradox@lemdro.id
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        They’re not even public yet lmao. And reddit got started by using bots to post content from RSS feeds to make it look busier than it was.

      • Pankkake@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I hear that instances can disable downvoting in Lemmy’s configuration. Maybe this is some solution to this issue.

        • Korkki@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          but it’s also about upvotes. /r/worldnews and many large and default sub is infamously crawling with upvote bots and they drown out everything unwanted and most people only read the “hot” section.

      • lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        on the desktop lemmy ui there is an option to hide scores

        it doesn’t completely solve the vote issue since most people don’t use it ( I assume), but I find my experience more enjoyable when I don’t know what scores a post or comment has

      • rambaroo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        The main reason sites have upvote/downvote features is to create confrontation and conflict. They want us yelling at each other and insulting each other because that engages more people and makes them more money.

        Social media companies are the scum of the fucking earth. Tech needs to be much more heavily regulated than it is. It’s long past time to put these intentionally destructive fatcat sociopaths in their place.

      • Pankkake@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I hear that instances can disable downvoting in Lemmy’s configuration. Maybe this is some solution to this issue.

      • Pankkake@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I hear that instances can disable downvoting in Lemmy’s configuration. Maybe this is some solution to this issue.

    • lycanrising@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      1 year ago

      what i fear is that reddit will take completely unnecessary but effective potshots at the fediverse and take down instances or fill them with bots just to punish those who made a point of leaving.

      • krackalot@vlemmy.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 year ago

        I expect it from reddit, Twitter and Facebook. This is a competitive service, and it’s not backed by a rich person that can swing money around to discover their behavior and sue them. They’ll likely be doing some shady stuff to make sure this either doesn’t work, or is under their control.

        • lycanrising@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          it’s not even about suing - i was reading the instance owners post about the version upgrade and it struck me that’s truly just down to random volunteers to work out tech issues. debugging malicious actions of a bigger team is just unfair.