We do, but it requires a good deal of manual labour. Which isn’t something people will just do for fun. Even someone who enjoys sowing isn’t going to want to spend all day in a factory making t-shirts, for example.
I don’t like taking out the trash and my partner doesn’t like doing the dishes but we both do them happily because we understand when we contribute to the household we both benefit in vastly greater measure than our individual efforts.
Looks like you have a much more optimistic view of humans than I do. Because I don’t think that “it’s necessary” would be enough motivation for most people to do things that they fundamentally dislike doing without having an immediately tangible benefit.
Whenever you have anything you don’t need for survival, give it to someone who can use it to survive. You can’t force anyone else to do this, but if enough of us do it, then we we will live in the Utopia described. If we dont do this, then we are actively fighting against this Utopia. I’m afraid we will not be able to continue this conversation, however, because we do not need these phones to survive.
Yeah I thought we might be having a conversation, but your last comment did in fact clarify that you’re being disingenuous, so I agree we not be able to continue.
Disingenuous, how? I absolutely agree that philosophically, it would be nice to work for the good of everyone else. It doesn’t make me actually want to live my own personal life in that way. I am human, and I have some selfish tendencies. I have no problem admitting that.
It’s not just you who has a phone. It’s us. I’m in the same situation as you. In theory, I want everyone to have the necessities. In practice, I care more about myself having more than the necessities than I care about everyone having their own necessities. Maybe that will change for me, but so far, it hasn’t. We are not alone in this. It seems to be human nature, which is why we have gravitated towards the system that we have as a species.
Star Trek has replicators.
It does, but we have the means to provide the basic needs for everyone already, no replicators required.
We do, but it requires a good deal of manual labour. Which isn’t something people will just do for fun. Even someone who enjoys sowing isn’t going to want to spend all day in a factory making t-shirts, for example.
I don’t like taking out the trash and my partner doesn’t like doing the dishes but we both do them happily because we understand when we contribute to the household we both benefit in vastly greater measure than our individual efforts.
Looks like you have a much more optimistic view of humans than I do. Because I don’t think that “it’s necessary” would be enough motivation for most people to do things that they fundamentally dislike doing without having an immediately tangible benefit.
Whenever you have anything you don’t need for survival, give it to someone who can use it to survive. You can’t force anyone else to do this, but if enough of us do it, then we we will live in the Utopia described. If we dont do this, then we are actively fighting against this Utopia. I’m afraid we will not be able to continue this conversation, however, because we do not need these phones to survive.
Yeah I thought we might be having a conversation, but your last comment did in fact clarify that you’re being disingenuous, so I agree we not be able to continue.
Disingenuous, how? I absolutely agree that philosophically, it would be nice to work for the good of everyone else. It doesn’t make me actually want to live my own personal life in that way. I am human, and I have some selfish tendencies. I have no problem admitting that.
Bro you literally did the “yet you have a phone!” meme
It’s not just you who has a phone. It’s us. I’m in the same situation as you. In theory, I want everyone to have the necessities. In practice, I care more about myself having more than the necessities than I care about everyone having their own necessities. Maybe that will change for me, but so far, it hasn’t. We are not alone in this. It seems to be human nature, which is why we have gravitated towards the system that we have as a species.