• po-lina-ergi@kbin.social
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    4 months ago

    For anybody who doesn’t understand the argument, it’s specifically a rebuttal to the idea that “The second amendment only applies to muzzle loaded muskets because nothing more advanced existed at the time”

    “Free speech only applies to newspapers and soapboxes because nothing more advanced existed at the time”

    • Kit Sorens@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s not a bad counterargument to that claim, we’ve just moved so far past that into the cost-benefit-analysis stage. The cost to keep the 2nd ammendment as it is is pretty fucking high.

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        These conversations always stunlock me. We are months away from living in a dictatorship in the U.S. and ya’ll are talking about what exactly? Revising the 2nd amendment? Can you please explain that to me?

        Because you simply must be out of your fucking mind if you think disarming yourself in the face of Ya’ll Queda is the course of action.

        • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          I hear you but also: school shooters

          Plus the dictator thing isn’t a guarantee, and even if he does win there’s still the possibility of impeachment when he’s prosecuted for inciting an insurrection

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        4 months ago

        Yeah, what needs to happen is changing those laws. The constitution has been changed many times before, and there’s no reason it can’t be changed again.

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      4 months ago

      Yup. Also, they aren’t saying “if we lose guns everyone should lose the right to free speech as well”

      They are saying that, since the right to free speech is clearly and self evidently important in modern mediums, the second amendment clearly extends to modern technology as well.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      well you could argue that digital is an extension of signaling using a form of light and sound - which has existed since prehistory.

      However, pedal bicycles and cars are on a similar spectrum (+ horses, tractors, mopeds, powered scooters…) and are subject to different laws.