So #Kagi is now partnering with #Brave, i.e. the company of Brendan Eich, who has been CEO at Mozilla for eleven days before he had to leave due to massive criticism of his homophobic views. Brave's most well-known product is a browser with its own cryptocurrency, co-designed by Eich.
A feedback post asking Kagi to reconsider has been closed by Kagi's founder Vladimir Prelovac because "Considering company x founder political views is not a factor in [their] evaluation".
https://kagifeedback.org/d/2808-reconsider-your-partnership-with-brave
Quite a controversial decision… I love Kagi though, but I don’t understand why they would want to drag Brave into this.
That is kinda disappointing. I had a distaste for Brave after all the initial controversy regarding the ad blocking, which only got worse from the crypto crap they now have in the browser.
I’ll still keep paying for Kagi, but this is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. Let’s hope at least the results get noticeably better.
Don’t forget the Brave CEO being ousted from Mozilla for being massively homophobic, donating money to try to overturn the right for gay couples to be married.
E: and them injecting affiliate codes when you copy some links, tracking users. Particularly bad when they relentlessly market themselves as being private
He’s spoken out since and said he thinks homophobia is acceptable (in 2014). He’s never said he was wrong - he doubled down on it saying people weren’t being inclusive of people who hold homophobic views.
Ask yourself if you’d be angry if he spent money campaigning on giving, say, black people fewer rights. I’d imagine you’d be pissed off about that. So what’s the difference? Why are you accepting of this?
It’s particularly bad that he sells his product as being respectful of people’s privacy, yet he wants the state to intervene in people’s private lives and prevent them from having equal rights.
By all means, use Brave. I don’t care. Use their crypto, use their affiliate links they inject into your browser, whatever. I just personally refuse to support someone who is unrepentantly homophobic.
Firstly, fuck off with this misrepresentation. I can’t be bothered with tedious whataboutism pushed purely to simp for a homophobic millionaire who actively wants people like me to be second class citizens.
He spent money to actively oppose LGBT people having equal rights. That’s very different to merely not publicly supporting it in order to avoid backlash from the very people he had to win over to be elected.
One of those is spineless or, charitably, savvy politicking. The other is outright hateful.
And for the record, I’m not American. I couldn’t give a shit about Obama. So if this is some kind of “um ackshully you supported Obama, owned much??” doesn’t apply to me. Not that it was even a good argument anyway.
He hasn’t come out and said that he was wrong or tried to make up for it in any way. He has in fact doubled down on his stance.
That is kinda disappointing. I had a distaste for Brave after all the initial controversy regarding the ad blocking, which only got worse from the crypto crap they now have in the browser.
I’ll still keep paying for Kagi, but this is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. Let’s hope at least the results get noticeably better.
Don’t forget the Brave CEO being ousted from Mozilla for being massively homophobic, donating money to try to overturn the right for gay couples to be married.
E: and them injecting affiliate codes when you copy some links, tracking users. Particularly bad when they relentlessly market themselves as being private
Has he done more than giving 1000 USD in 2008? Any statement for example?
He’s spoken out since and said he thinks homophobia is acceptable (in 2014). He’s never said he was wrong - he doubled down on it saying people weren’t being inclusive of people who hold homophobic views.
Ask yourself if you’d be angry if he spent money campaigning on giving, say, black people fewer rights. I’d imagine you’d be pissed off about that. So what’s the difference? Why are you accepting of this?
It’s particularly bad that he sells his product as being respectful of people’s privacy, yet he wants the state to intervene in people’s private lives and prevent them from having equal rights.
By all means, use Brave. I don’t care. Use their crypto, use their affiliate links they inject into your browser, whatever. I just personally refuse to support someone who is unrepentantly homophobic.
He didn’t support gay marriage in 2008. Neither did Obama, but he gets a free pass. Is Obama massively homophobic?
Firstly, fuck off with this misrepresentation. I can’t be bothered with tedious whataboutism pushed purely to simp for a homophobic millionaire who actively wants people like me to be second class citizens.
He spent money to actively oppose LGBT people having equal rights. That’s very different to merely not publicly supporting it in order to avoid backlash from the very people he had to win over to be elected.
One of those is spineless or, charitably, savvy politicking. The other is outright hateful.
And for the record, I’m not American. I couldn’t give a shit about Obama. So if this is some kind of “um ackshully you supported Obama, owned much??” doesn’t apply to me. Not that it was even a good argument anyway.
He hasn’t come out and said that he was wrong or tried to make up for it in any way. He has in fact doubled down on his stance.
Didn’t know he doubled down on it. When did he do that?
2014
When did he double down?
2014
Didn’t know he doubled down on it. When did he do that?
Has he made a statement to the contrary?
No, but he did do an interview years later where he doubled down, and complained that people weren’t being inclusive of those with homophobic views.
Basically the “so much for the tolerant left! They’re not even tolerant of my intolerance!” argument lol
Neither did the CEO of Grindr, later than that, lol
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I already like the results, and Kagi in itself, like it is. I don’t see how it could get better.