Israel is building up strong ties with the Arab world outside of Iran. They’ve signed quite a few agreements with other countries in the region. I think Israel would fit in very nicely with the China belt and road initiative. They’d be an appealing ally to Netanyahu too. China certainly would have no complaints about the authoritarian direction he’s been taking Israel in.
I’m not sure I see the link between the Native American genocide and Palestinian one. Not that I don’t see all the many similarities and the obvious facts like they’re both genocides, but what I mean is I don’t think any country is seriously going to be applying any pressure to America over treatment of Native Americans in any way. I don’t see how funding for Israel does anything for the American government in this sense even if that was the case?
I didn’t mean to imply America being the “good guy” here. I think they absolutely should cut off or condition funding in some way. Just wondering how it can be best done to prevent Israel just continuing its apartheid state without US support after funding is withdrawn. But we’ll never find out if the US never tries.
Israel is building up strong ties with the Arab world outside of Iran. They’ve signed quite a few agreements with other countries in the region. I think Israel would fit in very nicely with the China belt and road initiative.
Kind of, but they’re pissing it all away right now with their genocidal retaliation against Hamas. China simply wouldn’t be able to have their cake and eat it too, they’d need to make hard choices because working with Israel on the belt and road wouldn’t just alienate Iran, but also Jordan and Lebanon. Possibly more countries if Israel keeps souring relations with Egypt.
It’s definitely a complicated situation! I can agree about that.
I don’t see how funding for Israel does anything for the American government in this sense even if that was the case?
No no, I mean, America and Israel are part of the same settler-colonial metaproject. Upholding Israel helps protect America from ever paying for its own crimes, and visa versa.
America could actually someday pay for what it did and does to Native Americans. Israel acts as a buffer in the UN and international community, y’know?
I kind of get you. I’m still not sure I ever see the international community becoming very concerned about native Americans unfortunately. If we go through the major powers, China’s foreign policy is basically, domestic businesses is domestic, you stay out of our stuff and we’ll stay out of yours. Russia is well, yeah, off attempting yet another genocide of their own at the moment. Europe is heavily reliant on America and has a pretty horrific colonial and genocidal past of their own that they’ve barely made any recompense for.
I agree that America’s relationship with Isreal must be supplying the American government with some kind of tangible benefits or they wouldn’t be doing it. I’m just not sure, international community cover for native American genocide, is one of them or a big need the US government feels it has.
Thank you again for the good points and discussion.
Israel is building up strong ties with the Arab world outside of Iran. They’ve signed quite a few agreements with other countries in the region. I think Israel would fit in very nicely with the China belt and road initiative. They’d be an appealing ally to Netanyahu too. China certainly would have no complaints about the authoritarian direction he’s been taking Israel in.
I’m not sure I see the link between the Native American genocide and Palestinian one. Not that I don’t see all the many similarities and the obvious facts like they’re both genocides, but what I mean is I don’t think any country is seriously going to be applying any pressure to America over treatment of Native Americans in any way. I don’t see how funding for Israel does anything for the American government in this sense even if that was the case?
I didn’t mean to imply America being the “good guy” here. I think they absolutely should cut off or condition funding in some way. Just wondering how it can be best done to prevent Israel just continuing its apartheid state without US support after funding is withdrawn. But we’ll never find out if the US never tries.
Kind of, but they’re pissing it all away right now with their genocidal retaliation against Hamas. China simply wouldn’t be able to have their cake and eat it too, they’d need to make hard choices because working with Israel on the belt and road wouldn’t just alienate Iran, but also Jordan and Lebanon. Possibly more countries if Israel keeps souring relations with Egypt.
It’s definitely a complicated situation! I can agree about that.
No no, I mean, America and Israel are part of the same settler-colonial metaproject. Upholding Israel helps protect America from ever paying for its own crimes, and visa versa.
America could actually someday pay for what it did and does to Native Americans. Israel acts as a buffer in the UN and international community, y’know?
I kind of get you. I’m still not sure I ever see the international community becoming very concerned about native Americans unfortunately. If we go through the major powers, China’s foreign policy is basically, domestic businesses is domestic, you stay out of our stuff and we’ll stay out of yours. Russia is well, yeah, off attempting yet another genocide of their own at the moment. Europe is heavily reliant on America and has a pretty horrific colonial and genocidal past of their own that they’ve barely made any recompense for.
I agree that America’s relationship with Isreal must be supplying the American government with some kind of tangible benefits or they wouldn’t be doing it. I’m just not sure, international community cover for native American genocide, is one of them or a big need the US government feels it has.
Thank you again for the good points and discussion.