• 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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      4 days ago

      Trump was isolationist and did not start any wars in his first term, and campaigned on isolationism not starting wars in his second term. It was actually quite reasonable, even for non-MAGA people, to expect Trump to not start any wars in his second term.

      Though I guess the Iran war is ultimately a result of Trump being a mentally declining 78-year-old, losing his grip and impulse control. But going from that to concluding Trump would start a war with Iran was non-trivial.

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        Isolationism isn’t nonintervention. Anyone who thinks maga wasn’t going to keep us balls deep in the middle is was just straight up high. I know what he said, what maga people say. You have to realize they are gullible at best but usually more often they’re just lying

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          In his first term, Trump had made a (horrible) deal with the Taliban to get out of Afghanistan, and Trump had shamefully abandoned the US’s Kurdish allies in Syria. A reasonable person would think that Trump was pretty committed to reduce US involvement in the Middle East.

          So many of Trump’s “promises” were transparently false. Trump not going to war with Iran actually seemed pretty credible, at the time.

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            4 days ago

            Maybe, if you didn’t already see a psychopath who would do anything to stay out of jail?

            I dunno. My Trump derangement set in early, you could say before it was even Trump Derangement Syndrome. It’s hard not to blame people for romanticizing the various Ted Bundies who run our country