I’ve been thinking about writing this following a discussion on atheistmemes because it gave me a lot to think about.

The idea is quite simple. I acknowledge there are multiple visions of atheism but never really took the opportunity to discuss it with people.

So here are the main cornerstones of my vision of atheism. Do you share them or reject them ?

-Gods, as religions define it, do not exist. There might be some kind of metaphysical supreme entity, but it would be more akin to an abstraction.

-Spiritual beliefs, per se, are not a good or bad thing. I admire quite a lot of religious minded people. Abolitionist quakers, anarchist christians, muslim thinkers, poets, activists fighting for emancipation from colonial/theocratic rule, etc. That being said, I believe I’ll live and die as an atheist.

-Religious institutions are quasi-inherently evil. I write “quasi-” because I don’t know enough about all beliefs system. What about animist/pantheist institutions ? I don’t know. I come from a family of African immigrants and I hear mixed things about those.

-Being an atheist do not make you better or worse than being a believer, and, quite importantly, not “wiser”. Wisdom is earned from character and mind. That being said, being a fundamentalist and being wise are mutually incompatible imo.

-I deeply hate and resent all missionaries. Religious ones, especially fundamentalism of all shapes and forms, for sure, but also atheist ones. I believe there’s no god, I don’t need my friends to accept this. If they want to learn about atheism, I’ll tell them. I often question them about religion, because I sometimes have trouble understanding how they can be great people while believing in what are basically myths to me. But that’s all. That’s just me who don’t understand. I don’t think they would be “better” as atheists.

-I have an ambiguous relation to Islam. While I reject it as a set of institutions, like all other religions, and absolutely despise it’s fundamentalist current, I do understand that some large part of anti-Islam movements are actually ethnoracists in (a bad) disguise. I tend to favour alliances with muslim individuals/groups i’ll be able to talk with without it being infuriating. Tbh, the only fundamentalists I actually talked with irl were Christians and Jews. But that’s just my social position. If I was born in another context, another place, another family, it who would be different. I don’t doubt all religions produce fundamentalism in a somehow equal measure.

-I truly think reason is not a quality which is restricted to atheism. Even if, like wisdom, I think some conceptions of religion bar people from living according to reason. But I can’t respect people waving the “reason” flag like a title, an honor or an automatic consequence to being an atheist. Reason is a way of life, certainly not an authoritarian one, it’s hard earned and always fragile. And it’s certainly not restricted to “maths”. Although mathematics are a part of it. Understanding what’s good and bad for your own complexion is, for me, the beating heart of reason. Easier said than done.

-Despite all I said, I understand and won’t criticize a very strong stance against any religion from someone who’s been oppressed by them. Although, and take it with a grain of salt because it’s only my experience of those people, I don’t feel like they’re the first ones to wave atheist as the flag of a nation or a pride backed by a superiority complex.

To end this wall of text, here’s a summed up version of how I was raised. My parents are far from perfect, but this they did fine.

Both were religious. Jewish and Muslim, with various degrees of adhesion/rejection/deviation from their faiths (quite complicated for my mother). They had us participate in both religious rituals when we were young. We sang prayers (as we sang folk songs, we didn’t make a difference). But they didn’t give us any kind of religious education. When we were 14 or 15, they gathered my siblings and I and basically told us this :

“We are religious. But that’s just us. You’ve experienced what is religion. You should make a choice about it. Either now or later. There will be no consequence to your choice under this roof.”

There were three of us. We all choose to be atheists. They acknowledged our choice add we never once discussed that again.

That’s it. I’d like to hear your opinions about all this, if any. Thanks for reading !

Edits : typos

  • Leraje@lemmy.world
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    I am religious, in the sense that I am a member of a religion. The difference is that my religion is not a theist one. I’m an atheist and therefore, as I explained elsewhere, I adhere to the root meaning of the word ‘religion’, to be egotistical enough to quote myself (in turn quoting others):

    The word ‘religions’ Latin root word is religiō which means an individual virtue of worship in mundane contexts; never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge. The ancient Roman’s used it not in the context of a relationship towards gods, but as a range of general emotions which arose from heightened attention

    So, my religion is similar to Bhuddism or Jainism in that gods are not a requirement. I don’t believe in or practice the same things as them I’m just saying the ‘no gods required’ model is similar.

    All of which is to say I have no real issue with religion as an idea. If someone wants to believe in a supernatural being that’s entirely up to them. My issue with it starts when it starts to seep in to laws and regulations and government and state practices and when adherents to these religions feel it’s fine to start evangelising their opinions and morals on the rest of us in ways that inevitably end up oppressing people who want nothing to do with them, don’t believe in them and don’t follow them. I don’t see why any theist feels that it’s acceptable to practice their religion outside of their own homes and places of worship.

    I also find their insistence that morality can only come from a belief in not just a god, but their particular god to be breathtakingly arrogant and I do believe that theist religion in this aspect, as well as some others, is holding back human development.

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      11 months ago

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the etymology of the word religion was a complex and debated one.

      For the rest, I do agree even if I’d draw a distinction between religious rules and practices at an individual level (charity, fasting, prohibitions, etc.) based on their convictions, which is fine, and evangelizing, which is absolutely not.

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        11 months ago

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the etymology of the word religion was a complex and debated one.

        Could well be, I’m just going by the particular books I’ve read which I admit could be wrong. Here’s wikipedia’s take:

        The term religion comes from both Old French and Anglo-Norman (1200s AD) and means respect for sense of right, moral obligation, sanctity, what is sacred, reverence for the gods.[15][16] It is ultimately derived from the Latin word religiō. According to Roman philosopher Cicero, religiō comes from relegere: re (meaning “again”) + lego (meaning “read”), where lego is in the sense of “go over”, “choose”, or “consider carefully”. Contrarily, some modern scholars such as Tom Harpur and Joseph Campbell have argued that religiō is derived from religare: re (meaning “again”) + ligare (“bind” or “connect”), which was made prominent by St. Augustine following the interpretation given by Lactantius in Divinae institutiones, IV, 28.[17][18] The medieval usage alternates with order in designating bonded communities like those of monastic orders: “we hear of the ‘religion’ of the Golden Fleece, of a knight ‘of the religion of Avys’”.[19]