A lot of the arguments on that subreddit seem agenda driven from my perspective. While there are real concerns (user data sent and stored outside of Europe, right to be forgotten as mentioned by another user) the people there seem really fixated on the developers specifically and their beliefs, as well as deletion of user data.
If any one of the users there put their money where their mouth is and explained in a logical, sensible, neutral way to the devs why Lemmy should send federated deletion requests for example (claims made in that thread that Lemmy doesn’t, I haven’t verified if this is the case myself), the devs would probably take it on board the same way they removed the mandatory hard coded slur filter.
At the end of the day though, Kbin and Raddle seem like a solution to the general consensus in that thread, yet they get very little mention. The majority of the participants chose to bash rather than to fix, forcing their views on others inconsiderate of people’s threat models, and while they have every right to do so, a community with that kind of closed minded perspective is not something I’m into. I’d rather they stay on Reddit 👍
As for me personally… Lemmy could be better, but as a federated network with no need to be supported by ads, no API restrictions, as well as public mod logs for transparency & accountability, I really like it and interested in seeing where it goes. There are inevitably going to be issues, and a lot of the discussions I’ve seen here on Lemmy show an interest in improving things, vs reddit discussions where it’s the opposite.
Couldn’t agree more with your well worded post. Especially the third paragraph is absolutely nailing it for me. It feels like people on a crusade or something. There is no real discussion going on.
A lot of the arguments on that subreddit seem agenda driven from my perspective. While there are real concerns (user data sent and stored outside of Europe, right to be forgotten as mentioned by another user) the people there seem really fixated on the developers specifically and their beliefs, as well as deletion of user data.
If any one of the users there put their money where their mouth is and explained in a logical, sensible, neutral way to the devs why Lemmy should send federated deletion requests for example (claims made in that thread that Lemmy doesn’t, I haven’t verified if this is the case myself), the devs would probably take it on board the same way they removed the mandatory hard coded slur filter.
At the end of the day though, Kbin and Raddle seem like a solution to the general consensus in that thread, yet they get very little mention. The majority of the participants chose to bash rather than to fix, forcing their views on others inconsiderate of people’s threat models, and while they have every right to do so, a community with that kind of closed minded perspective is not something I’m into. I’d rather they stay on Reddit 👍
As for me personally… Lemmy could be better, but as a federated network with no need to be supported by ads, no API restrictions, as well as public mod logs for transparency & accountability, I really like it and interested in seeing where it goes. There are inevitably going to be issues, and a lot of the discussions I’ve seen here on Lemmy show an interest in improving things, vs reddit discussions where it’s the opposite.
Yeah, but all of this is because they don’t want things to change. They don’t want to leave Reddit, and they don’t want anyone else, to, either.
They have a dozen unrelated reasons to not leave, and no solutions that make leaving easier, because not leaving is their only goal.
Couldn’t agree more with your well worded post. Especially the third paragraph is absolutely nailing it for me. It feels like people on a crusade or something. There is no real discussion going on.
I would argue that the number of dead torrents is an indication that the right to be forgotten doesn’t depend only on affirmative deletion